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    USDA Food Police rejects preschooler's brownbag lunch, provides 'chicken nuggets'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...de-lunch--favo

    http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclu...e.html?id=8772

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    The national uproar over a 4-year-old’s recent encounter with a preschool lunch monitor at a Hoke County elementary school has prompted two members of the N.C. congressional delegation to fire off a letter expressing “strong concern” to U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack.

    “This unfortunate and absolutely unnecessary event exemplifies the very definition of ‘government overreach’ and further perpetuates a growing reason of why the American people continue to hold less and less faith in our government,” writes U.S. Rep. Larry Kissell, D-8th District, in the letter co-signed by Rep. Renee Ellmers, R-2nd District. Kissell represents the district in which the incident took place.
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    Audrey Rowe is visiting schools all over the nation.

    “Everything we can do.. to make food taste good,” Rowe told students at Elkhorn Middle School in Frankfort on Wednesday.

    The USDA official from Washington, DC got a first-hand look…and taste of school lunches in Kentucky.
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    Sooooo, highly processed 'chicken product' is more nutritious than a turkey sandwich, apple juice, a banana and some chips?

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    I guess we need to teach the kids the rules when "open carrying" their lunch to school.

    Do not consent to a lunch search.
    Do not talk to the lunch police.
    "Why am I being denied my lunch?"
    "Am I free to eat?"
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    put down the bag slowly and move away .... TASER the kid !

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    Ridiculous, I am starting to consider home school for my son more and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    Ridiculous, I am starting to consider home school for my son more and more.
    You'll be labeled a terrorist and a cultist for indoctrinating your child.

    Imagine the amount of damage you could do to a child if you taught them at an early age what a "right" is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    Ridiculous, I am starting to consider home school for my son more and more.
    I'd do it, but we can't afford to home school. I know many that would, but money is the issue so they can not. My wife is a teacher and this story pissed her off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony4310 View Post
    I'd do it, but we can't afford to home school. I know many that would, but money is the issue so they can not. My wife is a teacher and this story pissed her off.
    I thought if you home schooled, the government is supposed to give you back your share of property taxes that go toward the schools, or something like that? Is it just a dent, or is it significant? I never looked to see where my property taxes are going in either state where I hold land (NV and AZ).

    I was home-schooled for the 7th grade, but don't remember much now about the process.

    Of course, "affording" to home-school is more than money, I know. It means a parent is unavailable for other things, unless you are hiring a tutor, and than, yes, $$$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I thought if you home schooled, the government is supposed to give you back your share of property taxes that go toward the schools, or something like that? Is it just a dent, or is it significant?
    That is dependent on the jurisdiction, if it exists at all. Consider private school that removes as much expense from the taxpayer and is not recompensed.

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    Exclusive: 2nd N.C. Mother Says Daughter’s School Lunch Replaced for Not Being Health


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    This article was on f.a.g website (Find a Grave.com) last night my wife and I was talking about it. We would have been so mad if that was our little girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    Ridiculous, I am starting to consider home school for my son more and more.
    We "home schooled" our son, even though he was in regular school. It was just a matter of keeping the TV off most of the time and giving him fun things to play with and do, like blocks, puzzles, checkers, chess, and plenty of books he'd find interesting, including fun workbooks involving reading and math.

    Taking the time and energy to answer his questions was perhaps the best thing we could have done.
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    I agree. Public school has many benefits for growing kids, especially needed social development, but school was never meant to be hands-off to the parents. They should be JUST AS involved in their children's schoolwork as the children are. Somewhere along the line in became easier to just use it for day-care.
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    We started him on the Stuart Little computer games for math and reading when he was three, and by the time he was four he'd moved through the first couple of years of the Jump Start math/reading games. He's now twelve, and in sixth grade, but writing on a collegiate level. Not to interested in Math, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I agree. Public school has many benefits for growing kids, especially needed social development, but school was never meant to be hands-off to the parents. They should be JUST AS involved in their children's schoolwork as the children are. Somewhere along the line in became easier to just use it for day-care.
    while I agree with the parents being involved part, I must add home schoolers can get plenty of 'social development'. The parents just need to look for opportunities in church, communities, etc. Daughter would not be nearly as far ahead if we had placed her in government school.

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    I could not agree more. I am a big fan of well-done home schooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I could not agree more. I am a big fan of well-done home schooling.
    Ahh, what is "well-done home schooling," surely not the race card? The essential principle of home schooling is eliminating tyrannical mandates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    Ahh, what is "well-done home schooling," surely not the race card? The essential principle of home schooling is eliminating tyrannical mandates.
    Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    Ahh, what is "well-done home schooling," surely not the race card? The essential principle of home schooling is eliminating tyrannical mandates.
    The essential principle of home schooling is to effectively EDUCATE your child in a manner adaptive to their personalities, rather than running them all through the same meat grinder with only one way of learning. Added bonus; teaching them actual facts and knowledge, and how to USE it, rather than the 'government approved' curriculum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    The essential principle of home schooling is to effectively EDUCATE your child in a manner adaptive to their personalities, rather than running them all through the same meat grinder with only one way of learning. Added bonus; teaching them actual facts and knowledge, and how to USE it, rather than the 'government approved' curriculum.
    Agreed with the addition of, teaching the students to think critically. Why and how not just facts. Indoctrination is what is done in too many PUBLIC schools. I remember experiencing it when I was in 4th grade in So. California. Shame on MRS. Gruener for that! It is a shame that I still remember her name and the indoctrination that she did... but nothing else! 1965-66 school year was a LONG time ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Huh?
    I'll second your Huh and raise you a Whaaat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    SNIP Public school has many benefits for growing kids, especially needed social development, but school was never meant to be hands-off to the parents.
    "Needed social development"? The homeschooled children I've met did very well with their social skills. Friendliest, most outgoing, self-confident, bunch I've ever met.

    Some talk as though home-schooled kids are never let out of the house and have no friends. They never go to the public pool, the playground, the skatepark, Boy Scouts, play video games with the neighbor kids, etc., etc., etc.

    I'm always wondering what exactly are these vague and amorphous so-called "social skills" that can only be learned in public schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    The essential principle of home schooling is to effectively EDUCATE your child in a manner adaptive to their personalities, rather than running them all through the same meat grinder with only one way of learning. Added bonus; teaching them actual facts and knowledge, and how to USE it, rather than the 'government approved' curriculum.
    It is these things plus more.

    We were teaching Tori to read, mathematics and to observe the science and world around her constantly.

    While she was mastering +-*/, same age neighbor's daughter was learning how to glue glitter and pasta on a paper plate. While she was using Algebra to learn how to think logically, same age neighbor's daughter was failing two apples and you give one to the less fortunate how many are left? While the neighbor's daughter is trying to write sentences that are readable in English, Tori is a published poet and has chosen to learn Japanese as a second language because she likes Japanese animation.

    And while maintaining a A average, she has earned a Second Degree Black Belt in American Karate, will test this fall for her third Degree, has successfully competed in tournaments around the Southeast, has earned the highest belt possible in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu until she turns 16. She is also a paid instructor and mentors students as they work toward getting their Black Belt. She is also a fine marksman with multiple firearms. We expect she will complete her high school studies two years early and can then decide which mountains she wants to master. The only thing off the table is President of the United States, but then I'd just as soon she picked an honorable job.

    As for the 'Ahh, what is "well-done home schooling," surely not the race card?' comment, beats me as to what you're referring. Tori is Chinese, her teachers, companions, fellow students and kids she teaches - literally span the globe in their origins.

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