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    Presidential election and Iran/Israel...WAR hooyah, what is it good for!

    "There is more and more pressure on all sides," says Anthony Cordesman, a former senior U.S. intelligence and defense official and now chair of strategy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, the Washington D.C.-based think tank. "All of them are interacting now in ways that make it harder and harder to anticipate the actions of each other."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...81F1E720120216


    I was sitting up at two in the morning, the insomniac that I am, and got to thinking about this election cycle, and what a war between Iran and Israel might mean for this years Presidential run.

    http://ask.yahoo.com/20040130.html (this link is regarding Presidents reelection during war time)


    I wonder if anyone else has considered the potential ramifications if Iran and Israel started bombing the hell out of each other. Am I wrong to think that a larger number of Americans will likely hold to President Obama over some new guy during this volatile time? I say yes. What say you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Am I wrong to think that a larger number of Americans will likely hold to President Obama over some new guy during this volatile time? I say yes. What say you!
    I say yes too; I think America is ready to dump Obama no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    I say yes too; I think America is ready to dump Obama no matter what.
    Then you don't agree with me. I believe he will be less likely to be voted from office if sh*t hit the fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    I wonder if anyone else has considered the potential ramifications if Iran and Israel started bombing the hell out of each other. Am I wrong to think that a larger number of Americans will likely hold to President Obama over some new guy during this volatile time? I say yes. What say you!
    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Then you don't agree with me. I believe he will be less likely to be voted from office if sh*t hit the fan.
    But that's not what you said. Am I wrong was your question to which you answered in the affirmative.
    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    I say yes too; I think America is ready to dump Obama no matter what.
    I agree, clearly people will be fed up with all this nonsense and vote the man that promises to end all of it by destroying everything.

    On a serious note: All I know is that I'm ready for Obama to meet the curb. But he is the incumbent and they really get voted out. One can only hope that America comes to it's senses and gives Obama the boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Then you don't agree with me. I believe he will be less likely to be voted from office if sh*t hit the fan.
    I could post one of those funny "fail" pictures, but why beat you over the head with it?

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    If we got into a war it should cause all antiwar liberals to write in Ron Paul or choose a third party since war is so horrible and what ever.
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    I personally believe Iran is a powder keg. It's just a matter of time when it goes off. I have full faith in our Israeli allies though. Aside from ours they have one of the most well trained militaries. IINM they require all men to serve in the military when they reach age 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    If we got into a war it should cause all antiwar liberals to write in Ron Paul or choose a third party since war is so horrible and what ever.
    Yeah, war is pretty horrible. We should distance ourselves from this mess while we still can. It would be nice if the illiberal left saw this.

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    Think of the last president that commanded respect.

    Not policy-wise , but persona.

    Someone who wouldn't pull punches, didn't take all the credit for a mission overseas, didn't have vocabulary issues, didn't close a **** ton of military bases, didn't lie to the people about raising taxes.....

    Reagan.. and Kennedy....

    Two people, in my mind, that had a very tough attitude when it came to war.

    BOTH had the attitude of 'hey, we don't wanna go to war, but don't F#(%& with us either, or we'll wipe you off the map'...... and it showed.

    I see Ron Paul in a similar way.. 'Hey, you guys do what you do, we'll take care of ourselves... but you even THINK of f#%(ing with us, and you'll be screwed'..

    Lets not get into a policy debate about each thing that each president did.

    I'm just talking about a persona that translated into real life results..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    But that's not what you said. Am I wrong was your question to which you answered in the affirmative.

    I agree, clearly people will be fed up with all this nonsense and vote the man that promises to end all of it by destroying everything.

    On a serious note: All I know is that I'm ready for Obama to meet the curb. But he is the incumbent and they really get voted out. One can only hope that America comes to it's senses and gives Obama the boot.
    Yea, I did word it a bit weird, sorry about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Am I wrong to think that a larger number of Americans will likely hold to President Obama over some new guy during this volatile time?
    That depends entirely on how such a war might begin. If it's begun as a result of the administration's actions which could/should have been avoided, then no, he will not be re-elected, as Americans are SICK of war. And of Obama. Put the two together and he's outta there faster than the contents of a sick baby's stomach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    That depends entirely on how such a war might begin. If it's begun as a result of the administration's actions which could/should have been avoided, then no, he will not be re-elected, as Americans are SICK of war. And of Obama. Put the two together and he's outta there faster than the contents of a sick baby's stomach.
    There are some individuals who are sick of President Obama; they have been sick of President Obama since before he was elected to office by ten million votes.

    He wouldn't go to war for political reasons nor personal; he's no George W. Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    There are some individuals who are sick of President Obama; they have been sick of President Obama since before he was elected to office by ten million votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    He wouldn't go to war for political reasons nor personal; he's no George W. Bush.
    Could have fooled me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    There are some individuals who are sick of President Obama; they have been sick of President Obama since before he was elected to office by ten million votes.

    He wouldn't go to war for political reasons nor personal; he's no George W. Bush.
    ^This...

    Most Americans are sick of Obama? HAHAHAHAHAHAH Quit smoking crack people...

    Notice all of his polls are pretty steady. No volatile behavior. Even changes are minor which indicates that except for a few fence-sitters the same people that hated or loved him before hate or love him now. Unlike say Bush or Reagan that had humongous changes. Though, much of Obama's performance is on par with Reagan's though the GOP will NEVER admit to it.

    More like the same Americans that didn't like him before for shady reasons don't like him now for the same shady reasons. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanley View Post
    more like the same americans that didn't like him before for shady reasons don't like him now for the same shady reasons. Lol
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    There are some individuals who are sick of President Obama; they have been sick of President Obama since before he was elected to office by ten million votes.

    He wouldn't go to war for political reasons nor personal; he's no George W. Bush.
    Oh but he will. He might not be Bush, but he's Bush's fellow progressive cousin.
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    I wouldn't be suprised if the obozo regime aided in the bombing of Iran believeing it would give him a popular boost amoung repukes who don't care for whomever is nominated. However we know he would do it half assed and not do enough damage to set them back enough to make the endeavor worthwhile. Itis stunning how the acolytes of the moonbat messiah have turned out to be the real "bitter clingers", with a white knuckle grip on their marxist dogma and delusional zealotry. They think this clown will actually make socialism work, that anyone who doesn't "think" like them only do so out of racism, and are even mindless enough to denounce conservatives for their religious beliefs but appear to have been spelunking when that idiot insisted Jesus Christ Himself would propose a similar budget. Lets try to forget nanzi pillousy quoting bible versus like a 2nd grader with public speaking anxiety.

    Keep dreaming bed wetters, your moonbat messiah ran as a "moderate" on domestic issues and governed like mussolini. He denounced every tenent of the Bush foriegn policy, and resumed the same course (except for the bowing to despotic rulers and groveling to the muslim world). Plenty of the hardcore left is just as disgusted with him but will probably still vote for him if they aren't too stoned to remember too, but the "moderates" he pandered too are no longer under any illusions, and the repukes are fully aware of how much of a disaster he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post

    Am I wrong to think that a larger number of Americans will likely hold to President Obama over some new guy during this volatile time? I say yes.

    What say you!
    A larger number (52.8% of those who voted in the last presidential election) of Americans held to Obama and put him in office with their votes.

    If none of them have a change of heart, we'll likely have him for another four years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    A larger number (52.8% of those who voted in the last presidential election) of Americans held to Obama and put him in office with their votes.

    If none of them have a change of heart, we'll likely have him for another four years.
    Republicans have only themsevles to blame; their line-up sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Republicans have only themsevles to blame; their line-up sucks.
    Republicans have nothing to do with the 52.8% who put Mr. Obama in office.

    Well, they may have after all...some of the cry babies whose candidate didn't get the nomination probably stayed home and voted for no one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    Republicans have nothing to do with the 52.8% who put Mr. Obama in office.

    Well, they may have after all...some of the cry babies whose candidate didn't get the nomination probably stayed home and voted for no one.
    Of course Republicans have nothing to do with the fact that they couldn't win in 2008; who is to blame than--W. Bush?

    All I am stating is that the Republican line-up sucks, and that Paul should have ran third party. I have been saying this for some time now that the Republicans are overplaying this whole thing, they are so hell-bent on getting President Obama out of office that they forgot one important thing--a viable candidate.

    I think there are a number of individuals on here that are seeing the writing on the wall, and know that it is more likely than not that President Obama is going to hold the office; a lot of denial floating around on the Republican side right now...IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Of course Republicans have nothing to do with the fact that they couldn't win in 2008; who is to blame than--W. Bush?

    All I am stating is that the Republican line-up sucks, and that Paul should have ran third party. I have been saying this for some time now that the Republicans are overplaying this whole thing, they are so hell-bent on getting President Obama out of office that they forgot one important thing--a viable candidate.

    I think there are a number of individuals on here that are seeing the writing on the wall, and know that it is more likely than not that President Obama is going to hold the office; a lot of denial floating around on the Republican side right now...IMO
    You're too self absorbed and the propellant chemicals have slowed your synapses. The media beat the $#!t out of the public with their Bush hate, and the ayatollah of assahollahs (whom I lovingly refer to as obozo, the moonbat messiah) beat to death his so called opposite stances which we all know now he didn't stand by, like GITMO for instance. Republicans are in a struggle amoungst themselves for a leader, but this time they understand (along with the moderates) that staying home will screw us all over.

    You on the other hand won't loose patience until your EBT can no longer be used to buy Rustoleum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoWeenie View Post
    Think of the last president that commanded respect.

    Not policy-wise , but persona.

    Someone who wouldn't pull punches, didn't take all the credit for a mission overseas, didn't have vocabulary issues, didn't close a **** ton of military bases, didn't lie to the people about raising taxes.....

    Reagan.. and Kennedy....

    Two people, in my mind, that had a very tough attitude when it came to war.

    And any student of history knows what happened to them when they stood up to the Military-Industrial complex and its globalist puppet masters...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald


    Just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    And any student of history knows what happened to them when they stood up to the Military-Industrial complex and its globalist puppet masters...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr....
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    Bush–Hinckley family connection coincidence

    Coincidentally, Hinckley's father was a financial supporter of George H.W. Bush's 1980 presidential primary campaign, where Bush was Reagan's closest rival for the Republican nomination prior to becoming his Vice President. Hinckley's older brother, Scott, had a dinner date scheduled at the home of Neil Bush the day after the Reagan assassination attempt.[19][20] Neil's wife Sharon indicated in a newspaper interview the day after the shooting that Scott was coming to their house as a date of a girlfriend of hers, and that she didn't "know the brother [John]" but understood "that he was the renegade brother in the family." Sharon described the Hinckleys as "a very nice family" and that they had "given a lot of money to the Bush campaign."[21] In another coincidence, Neil Bush had lived in Lubbock, Texas, in 1978, where Hinckley lived from 1974 to 1980.
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