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Can any of you speculate on this. Thanks.
Can any of you speculate on this. Thanks.
There is nothing on the radar this year. All plans for OC were deferred to next year.
You should have seen this forum last year. It was hot and heavy with folks preordering Rentention 2 holsters for the celebration in April.
Then we got hosed in the Senate ...
Makes one sick in remembering that fiasco.
I bought an OWB retention holster
In the meantime, I've already had phone calls, in recent months, from both the DNC and the GOP in Florida, as well as the Sherrif's Association, and the F.O.P.- all seeking donations or contributions of one sort or other for their organizations. I not only declined, but explained-at length- that they will recieve not a single dime of mine, unless/until, I see a clear, decisive, and public reversal of their opposition to the passage of full Open Carry in this State.
Hmm, good idea. I get those calls all the time and now I've got something to talk about with them!!
Also, open carry would be a really good deal for somebody like me as most everybody I know is getting tired of seeing me in the same four cover garments (two are the same) all the time.
They must think those are the only four things I own!!
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There is nothing on the radar this year. All plans for OC were deferred to next year.
You should have seen this forum last year. It was hot and heavy with folks preordering Rentention 2 holsters for the celebration in April.
Then we got hosed in the Senate ...
Makes one sick in remembering that fiasco.
I got a letter the other day from the FSA soliciting donations also. I simply wrote SB234 on it in big sharpie and mailed it back.Lol, know what you mean- I recently expanded my over-shirt line-up, myself, for those rare occasions in which I even bother to go to the trouble of concealing...
But, yes, It does indeed give something to talk about, and it's at least one way to be sure they get to hear an actual reason WHY they are'nt raising funds.
If enough of us make a point to do so, when we get these calls- and you will get these calls-it
's that season for them now, then they will eventually have to tell someone up the chain that "we are'nt raising as many bucks, because a a lot of folks are pissed about our stance on OC"
I got a letter the other day from the FSA soliciting donations also. I simply wrote SB234 on it in big sharpie and mailed it back.
Is this awesome? Y/N
I knew a wise man who once received a traffic ticket for speeding. He wiped the biggest booger on it, folded it (double wammy), placed it in the envelope with a check and mailed it off. trolling IRL.
I got a letter the other day from the FSA soliciting donations also. I simply wrote SB234 on it in big sharpie and mailed it back.
This is not the one I sent but this is showing up on facebook at http://www.facebook.com/groups/FLopencarry/. Maybe they will get the message. If you ever get a chance to talk to an LEO running for Sheriff always make sure you mention SB234 and your disappointment. Not all LEO's supported the FSA in their efforts that year and before I support any of them running for election I ask where they stood.I like that idea, I will do the same!
This is not the one I sent but this is showing up on facebook at http://www.facebook.com/groups/FLopencarry/. Maybe they will get the message. If you ever get a chance to talk to an LEO running for Sheriff always make sure you mention SB234 and your disappointment. Not all LEO's supported the FSA in their efforts that year and before I support any of them running for election I ask where they stood.
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The NRA and Hammer dropped the ball and sold us all out on SB234 for a useless check mark in the win column. Don't forget that. I don't see OC getting into another bill with such promise as SB234 had last year. Not for a long time. It took 12 years to get it even considered in 2011..
You are correct, I did my math wrong. It was in the 80's when OC was banned. So it's been over 20 years to get it back in the legislature. SB234 was the closest it ever came to repealing the ban. If I remember correct, SB234 had a number of issues that the state was forced to address after changes in federal law (long gun, state lines). I remember watching the senate floor when they changed it from an open carry bill to the useless bill that was passed. A lot of us encouraged them to kill the bill when the sponsor stood on the floor and said "this is no longer an open carry bill" yet it was titled "the open carry bill". Had they killed the bill in it's entirety I believe they would have been forced to reintroduce another bill to deal with the other issues and open carry could have been readdressed in the next session with a supportive governor. It was said at the time (2011) that if open carry was removed from the language we would not see another sponsored bill to include open carry for another 20 years. I think that is going to be the case. If I'm wrong and Florida Carry can get a new bill introduced than great. Hammer should have used her influence to have the bill killed as soon as they changed the language in the final hour. She did not solely for a useless victory for the NRA. I will never forget that or let that go unsaid. IMHO!Just curious where the "12 years to get it even considered in 2011" comes from. To my knowledge, SB234 was the first time it's been tried since OC was banned in 1987.
That's cool with me. The more the merrier. Let'em know and hear from as many of us as we can.Mea culpa firedog! I stole your idea. It was too good to ignore. I hope you'll forgive me!
You are correct, I did my math wrong. It was in the 80's when OC was banned. So it's been over 20 years to get it back in the legislature. SB234 was the closest it ever came to repealing the ban. If I remember correct, SB234 had a number of issues that the state was forced to address after changes in federal law (long gun, state lines). I remember watching the senate floor when they changed it from an open carry bill to the useless bill that was passed. A lot of us encouraged them to kill the bill when the sponsor stood on the floor and said "this is no longer an open carry bill" yet it was titled "the open carry bill". Had they killed the bill in it's entirety I believe they would have been forced to reintroduce another bill to deal with the other issues and open carry could have been readdressed in the next session with a supportive governor. It was said at the time (2011) that if open carry was removed from the language we would not see another sponsored bill to include open carry for another 20 years. I think that is going to be the case. If I'm wrong and Florida Carry can get a new bill introduced than great. Hammer should have used her influence to have the bill killed as soon as they changed the language in the final hour. She did not solely for a useless victory for the NRA. I will never forget that or let that go unsaid. IMHO!