Thread: Young Girl shot at school
Breaking news.... http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...hington-school
Not much detail, more will evolve on this sad story, including the fodder for anti's.....
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat....Teddy Roosevelt
How exactly is a third grader shooting another third grader at school, in any way an accident?
This kind of "incident" screams negligence on a lot of different levels, starting with the boys Mother and\or Father.
Some people are saying it's an outrage that he was able to "conceal" it for four hours but the same people would be outraged if the school wanted to search their childs backpacks.
Hello, Mr. Roberts, it IS ILLEGAL for the 9 year old to possess the handgun in Washington, it IS ILLEGAL for the 9 year old to take the gun to school. Two separate criminal violations of the statute occurred. So EXACTLY what the hell are you talking about, Mr. Roberts?!?"Washington state is a loosely regulated state when it comes to firearms," said Gregory Roberts, executive director of Washington Cease Fire, a Brady Campaign affiliate.
I'm sorry but I don't believe this happened. Guns aren't allowed in schools so reports of this incident could not possibly be true.
Prayers for the victim without question.
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According to this, both the father and the mother of the boy have "extensive criminal records".
Last edited by Dave in Edmonds; 02-23-2012 at 06:37 PM.
Guns don't kill people, bullets do!
fake story. you can't discharge a firearm in a school.
“The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
[Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
“There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
[Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F2d. 946 (1973)]
Is it reasonably possible that the parents own no guilt in this situation? Is it reasonably possible that some set of circumstances entirely out of their control led to this situation? Is it reasonably possible that, as any parent can tell you, that their son did something bad in spite of a theoretical, good up-bringing? I'm not asking if it's likely; it sure as hell doesn't seem likely to me. I'm not asking if it fits clean and tidy standard models of cookie-cutter stereotypes. I'm simply asking if it's reasonably possible.
Because if it is, then shame on anyone damning the parents already. This could happen to any of us, too, however unlikely we consider it. Let's wait for verifiable evidence of wrong-doing before we cast the first stone.
Let's first consider "extensive criminal backgrounds"? Really? I would expect a $100 junk gun if that were true, not a $1000 H&K45. People with "extensive criminal backgrounds" generally do not have the funds, or inclination to purchase a $1000 pistol, as they are just going to throw it away after they commit their next crime...don't you think? Just that part smells very fishy to me.
Secondly, how did this family come by this expensive pistol if they have a criminal background? I would think that the police would be charging the parents with felon in possession if that was the case, don't you?
Third, the kid said he was planning to run away from home??? Kids that don't get any discipline at home, also don't rebel and run away????
It would be interesting to be the fly on the wall and know what is really going on here.
We really only know two FACTS: A little girl has been injured, and a little boy is in deep dodo...that is all we really know. Oh yes, and the weapon the boy had is not a cheap highpoint or anything like that.
Let's cool it off untill we know more from more reliable sources.
More info: http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-9yea...0,962082.story
Sounds like a very disfunctional family.
Last edited by hermannr; 02-23-2012 at 07:59 PM.
According to the Seattle times our favorite senator Adam Kline will supposedly introduce legislation next year
"In Olympia, the Seattle Democrat who chairs the state Senate Judiciary Committee said there is a lapse in state law. "We do not hold people very accountable in this state for leaving guns around the house with small children," Sen. Adam Kline said.
Kline said that he would consider a bill to address it during the next legislative session next year, but didn't sound hopeful of its chances."
Shame on you for not holding the parents 100% accountable. No it can not happen to any of us, false. You are looking for the easy way out.
The parents at some point and every point have shirked their responsibility in raising a child into our society and teaching that child responsibility. Don't you dare try to let them off the hook.
Live Free or Die!
BTW, not knowing the specifics of the claimed criminal records, I would still point out that a criminal is very capable of stealing a $1000 handgun, just as easily as a $100 handgun.
That story makes me feel sad. What a waste of good human life.
Why weren't the guns locked up? How did the kid get a hold of it?
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Live Free or Die!
H&K .45 users. Is it credible that slamming the backpack on the desk could make the gun 'go off'. What kind of safety is being used.
A firearm is a tool of convenience, not effectiveness - Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch
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Originally Posted by Q13Fox
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edited to add: he's from NYC http://www.adamkline.org/about/ my mistake, of course functionally equivalent.
Last edited by Dave_pro2a; 02-24-2012 at 11:39 AM.
WA does not need a mandatory 'lock up your gun' law. You can't legislate responsibility. All you can do is manufacture more criminals, which only profits the police and prison guard unions (as well as lawyers).
Enjoy your good luck. It doesn't always last.