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    Sb680

    SB680 assigned to committee a few weeks ago. Anyone here anything on where it stands?.
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    I am trying to keep up-to-date information on all of the OC Preemption bills (3, 2 starting int he House and 1 starting in the Senate), as well as the other firearm bills relating to the 2A and OC here: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...use-and-Senate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verd View Post
    I am trying to keep up-to-date information on all of the OC Preemption bills (3, 2 starting int he House and 1 starting in the Senate), as well as the other firearm bills relating to the 2A and OC here: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...use-and-Senate
    And may I add a GOOD JOB of it too!!

    Thanks for keeping track!
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    Next step

    The next step for SB 680 is to get it heard in Committee.
    Judiciary and Civil and Criminal Jurisprudence Committee
    Committee Chair:Jack Goodman
    CAPITOL OFFICE:
    201 W Capitol Ave., Rm. 331A
    Jefferson City, Missouri 65101
    (573) 751-2234
    FAX: (573) 526-9808

    Call, or write Mr. Goodman and s\ask him to have SB 680 heard by his committee.
    Generate a short and polite note and remember to put your name and address included.

    Example:
    Dear Senator Goodman, I am asking that SB680 by Senator Nieves be heard in the Judiciary and Civil and Criminal Jurisprudence Committee.
    It is time to restore 2nd amendment rights to the people of Missouri.
    Thank you,
    Name, address, phone number
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    Sent a note to him via snail mail. I think a real paid for envelope and stamp makes a better statement.

    Has anyone seen Goodman's record? I am completely unsure of which way he will go. A few examples:

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/08info/bts_...e=R&BillID=166
    Criminalize drug or prenatal alcohol use.

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/09info/bts_...&BillID=930269
    Hold a suspect 48 hrs vice 24 with no charges.

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/07info/bts_...e=R&BillID=108
    He does seem to be pro-self defense.

    http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary....ar=2010&code=R
    But then this. We already have the right to defend ourselves. This is a feel good bill.

    Anyone have better input on how this might turn out?

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    He is the "Chairman", it is up to him whether to hear the bill in his committee or not.
    Thus go the pitfalls of any bill in Missouri.
    They can be dead at any point in the process.

    Thanks for sending the letter, more is better.
    Quote Originally Posted by Griz View Post
    Sent a note to him via snail mail. I think a real paid for envelope and stamp makes a better statement.

    Has anyone seen Goodman's record? I am completely unsure of which way he will go. A few examples:

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/08info/bts_...e=R&BillID=166
    Criminalize drug or prenatal alcohol use.

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/09info/bts_...&BillID=930269
    Hold a suspect 48 hrs vice 24 with no charges.

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/07info/bts_...e=R&BillID=108
    He does seem to be pro-self defense.

    http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary....ar=2010&code=R
    But then this. We already have the right to defend ourselves. This is a feel good bill.

    Anyone have better input on how this might turn out?
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    What can we do to get this bill moving?

    Missouri is the worst state when it comes to preemption relating to open carry rights in the entire USA - the Kansas AG has issued opinions pretty much saying localities in Kansas are preempted as a practical matter.

    Every other state with shaky preemption on open carry at least makes concealed permit holders immune.

    We need to get Missouri back in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    What can we do to get this bill moving?

    Missouri is the worst state when it comes to preemption relating to open carry rights in the entire USA - the Kansas AG has issued opinions pretty much saying localities in Kansas are preempted as a practical matter.

    Every other state with shaky preemption on open carry at least makes concealed permit holders immune.

    We need to get Missouri back in the game.
    We are working on it!
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griz View Post
    Sent a note to him via snail mail. I think a real paid for envelope and stamp makes a better statement.

    Has anyone seen Goodman's record? I am completely unsure of which way he will go. A few examples:

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/08info/bts_...e=R&BillID=166
    Criminalize drug or prenatal alcohol use.

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/09info/bts_...&BillID=930269
    Hold a suspect 48 hrs vice 24 with no charges.

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/07info/bts_...e=R&BillID=108
    He does seem to be pro-self defense.

    http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary....ar=2010&code=R
    But then this. We already have the right to defend ourselves. This is a feel good bill.

    Anyone have better input on how this might turn out?
    Godman files for Circuit Judge position.

    http://www.news-leader.com/article/2...xt%7CFRONTPAGE

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9026543 View Post
    Godman files for Circuit Judge position.

    http://www.news-leader.com/article/2...xt%7CFRONTPAGE
    Maybe the good fella has read and understands the 2nd amendment and art.1 sec. 23 of the Missouri Constitution?
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    Some place on the forum I posted the video of State Senator Nieves and his short video on his SB 680.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujTWy...&feature=share
    It was pointed out to me he did not have the correct back ground on the wall. No flag with a snake. I just got back from Jefferson City and corrected that:
    Last edited by mspgunner; 03-28-2012 at 03:48 PM.
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    Where do I find more info on this bill?Does it still have a chance?I'm new to the forum.

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    Is there anybody out there?I can't start telling people about the bill to garner support untill I know it still has a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogsoldier View Post
    Is there anybody out there?I can't start telling people about the bill to garner support untill I know it still has a chance.
    I do not think it is totally dead. I believe it has been assigned to committee, but unless there is a miracle. It will probably die there.
    A bunch of phone calls, e-mails, ect , may be exactly what is needed. Dang sure cannot hurt.
    Hopefully someone will come along and give you some better info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogsoldier View Post
    Where do I find more info on this bill?Does it still have a chance?I'm new to the forum.
    Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately that bill has been stalled in committe since the beginning of February, and there is little time left since the legislative session ends on May 18th. To find out more about the bill and who to contact go to www.senate.mo.gov and search for bill sb680. There you will find the full text of the bill, all actions taken on it, the committee it is assigned to, etc. If you click on the link for the committe, it will list all of the committee members and their contact info.

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    You mean it won't even get an up or down vote?What does it mean to be "stalled in committe "?

    Well will start the whole process over again if we have to.
    Last edited by Dogsoldier; 05-11-2012 at 05:33 AM.

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    It's not going anywhere.

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