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    Gun transfer from MD resident to VA

    Hello all,

    I am looking at buying a gun from a friend who lives in MD. Its a Springfield XD40. She lives in MD and I live in VA anyone know what are the laws regarding transfer of the firearm to me in VA?

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    you pay her.
    she arranges for a md ffl to effect the transfer.
    you arrange for a va ffl to accept the transfer.
    md and va ffls trade info.
    md ffl ships to va ffl.
    you pay va ffl a transfer fee.
    va ffl runs bg check on you.
    va ffl transfers to you.

    if i got anything wrong, someone will be along soon to correct.
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    Cool What I Want To Know Is

    How the hell did somebody in Maryland come to own a gun?
    The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    How the hell did somebody in Maryland come to own a gun?
    Whats even more amazing is she has a ccw permit for MD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcarey View Post
    Whats even more amazing is she has a ccw permit for MD
    She must be VERY WELL connected.

    Or ex-LEO/alphabet agent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    She must be VERY WELL connected.

    Or ex-LEO/alphabet agent.
    She comes to Virginia, you buy the gun, neither remember the transaction......er ....I mean
    follow Mk's advice...yeah, that's right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    She comes to Virginia, you buy the gun, neither remember the transaction... er... I mean follow Mk's advice... yeah, that's right!
    Sounding a bit like Schultz there, Pete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    She must be VERY WELL connected.

    Or ex-LEO/alphabet agent.
    She Knew the PG county Sheriff but she was robbed at gun point at her place of business and that was the justification for the CCW. She went to Front sight in NV for the 4-day Defensive training. now she owns a HK 40, SIG, Glock and the Springfield
    Last edited by Dcarey; 02-24-2012 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcarey View Post
    She Knew the PG county Sheriff but she was robbed at gun point at her place of business and that was the justification for the CCW.
    A "special need" converts a right into a privilege.

    But methinks you already knew that. We're just having fun at MD's expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mk4 View Post
    you pay her.
    she arranges for a md ffl to effect the transfer.
    you arrange for a va ffl to accept the transfer.
    md and va ffls trade info.
    md ffl ships to va ffl.
    you pay va ffl a transfer fee.
    va ffl runs bg check on you.
    va ffl transfers to you.

    if i got anything wrong, someone will be along soon to correct.
    hth.
    Almost, Too many steps...in the above
    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unli...rearms-carrier
    Q: May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?

    A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]



    The advantage of using a local FFL holder vs shipping it yourself is shipping cost.
    FFL holders can use the USPS.
    Non FFL holder's have to use a contract carrier and they usually require handguns to be shipped next day and the item has to be declared.
    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
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    Thanks for the Info!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent19 View Post
    Almost, Too many steps...in the above
    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unli...rearms-carrier
    Q: May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?

    A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]



    The advantage of using a local FFL holder vs shipping it yourself is shipping cost.
    FFL holders can use the USPS.
    Non FFL holder's have to use a contract carrier and they usually require handguns to be shipped next day and the item has to be declared.
    thanks, much, M.
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    It is not necessary to use an FFL on the Maryland side. Assuming she can lawfully transport the gun through Maryland (I'm pretty sure she can under these circumstances, but I'm not an attorney in Maryland), she can box up the unloaded gun, drive it to the Virginia FFL of your choice, deliver it to that person who will log it in, and then transfer it to you w/background check.
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    as always, Dan is spot on. enjoy

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    Yup, user nailed it. I would add that you should just check with the FFL to make sure they will do the transfer that way. It's legal, but some won't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcarey View Post
    She Knew the PG county Sheriff but she was robbed at gun point at her place of business and that was the justification for the CCW. She went to Front sight in NV for the 4-day Defensive training. now she owns a HK 40, SIG, Glock and the Springfield
    No, I hate to break the news to you, but the robber was NOT the reason she got the permit.

    There is no requirement to have a permit in MD to carry a gun in your own place of business if you are the owner. And transporting a gun (unloaded and locked up) from your home to your place of business is 100% legal in MD without a permit. So unless she was robbed in transit, she would not have a "good and substantial reason" because defending yourself in your home or your own place of business with a handgun DOES NOT require a permit in MD.

    She can tell you any tall tale she wants, an you can justify it any way you want, but there are only TWO reasons that "ordinary people" in Md get permits--they are well-connected, or they have been the victim of a crime so egregious that denying them a permit would turn into a media nightmare for the MSP (this one only works for women and minorities who have been the victim of "hate crimes").

    She is either VERY well connected, or she threatened to play the "female crime victim takes the story to the media" card with them.

    MSI has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt at the HB-45 hearings that MSP doesn't just regularly engage in political favoritism in their issuance of permits--such arbitrary and capricious policy is their SOP. This is not up for debate. End of story. Period.
    Last edited by Dreamer; 02-26-2012 at 08:59 PM.
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