Spot on, well said Sir.
Yep! The american people will most likely NOT elect a guy for president that will be 77 when taking office.
Spot on, well said Sir.
- Am i suspicious of ultra rich powerful men in suits who can leach whats left of our Country in to a brain dead landscape of pre-programmed sheeple willing to give up their right because the TV told them to ??? ..... Damn straight I am.
Did the TV tell you about those ultra rich powerful men and what they are doing?
Sounds like another boogie man tale to me designed to pre-program the sheeple.
Typical brainwashed talking points without any basis in fact. General statements like this without factual back up are beyond pathetic IMHO.
Bat I thought you were smarter than this.
To keep this on topic I plan to OC to a Ron Paul event next Friday in Spokane, pics to follow.
Keep up the good work Jim.
I don't watch much TV at all, we have Netflix, thats it. Interent maybe?.. I spend most of my time throwing a wrench on my Harley and hot rods.
- How did i come to that mindset? Actually i function off of what I see, experience over my years and what history drafts in it's ledger. I been all over the world and understand there is a difference between "their version of history and ours" (a fascinating study too). I have read how cultures have risen and fallen, even in recent history (last 100 years). Most people think "It could never happen here, it's America"... Yet the last 100 years we have seen warfare on a massive level. WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo,Croatia, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc. etc.... How many massive government changes have happened around the world in recent history: The rise and fall of the third Reich, the formation of Israel, the rise and fall of communist Russia, the division of Korea, etc. etc. - How many countries have actually come and gone and simply dony exist anymore? Change, especially drastic change is the nature of the beast. It is in fact how the world, left un-checked, works... I ask, WHO MADE THESE CHANGES?
- So I will again ask, where do these changes come from? How did these events happen? Who created these conditions... The fact is that powerful people left un-checked create these conditions through gloat and greed. These little groups of ultra elite, ultra powerful, often ultra wealthy people can (as history has shown over and over again) become selfish zealots that hold no regard for what "the people" need or want. At a point they become so caught up in their "vision" of creating some great culture that they forget the humanity thats connected to it. Some never cared and just seek power and raw control... Maybe you'd like to claim that Nazi or KGB never existed, or that the 1950's commie-propaganda driven scare in the USA was fake too? Regular people did this? Or Who?
- Why did our founding father have all those little quotes that we 2nd amendment types love so much? Hell, why do we have a second amendment?? If the world and politicians were such a trustable lovable bunch, then 2-A would be about hunting... You obviously dont really need guns, because the USA, government, and happy citizens are so trustable. ~ Forget the past, and we will be bound to repeat it.
- Where are we now? Almost $4 Gas (supposed to be $5 next year -YAY!), food prices going out the roof, horrible economy, more laws being drafted every day, awesome government programs like "fast and furious", health care, any of us 20-35k a year blue collar workers get a good raise lately? ... And please remind me WHO created this condition??? - Did "We the people" do it?? Or Did Bankers, Politicians, elite power pukers and government create this??? -- Smarter than that??? Smarter than what?? <sigh> What are we NOT seeing here???
No I don't believe in Illuminati, or the secret Zionists, or black helicopters, or one world "secret" government movements. I don't believe in NATO/UN trying to take over the world, nor do i fret about conspiracy theorys..... but History DOES have a track record that can not be dismissed, and to not acknowledge WHO created that track record is reckless and dangerous.
Sen. Kline "Because I alone chose not to schedule these two bills for a hearing" .... Example of a suit doing what they please, pursuing their own vision. Minor yes, but it fits the pattern. Let them get away with it, they will keep doing it, and to what ends? .. Maybe we'd like to shake Kline's hand too...
(from thread: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...-latest-gun-initiatives&p=1709746#post1709746 )
- WHY is it that we struggle to retain our second amendment rights?? Who is it that we claim to protect ourselves from via the 2nd Amendment? Please elaborate the founding ideas to me regarding powerful people in high positions, then ask I'll if you'd like to question my intelligence again.
Being "smarter than that" means acknowledging the possible places these people can bring us to while we are screaming in the back seat.
Pathetic is ignoring history, and doing a "trust fall" in to the arms of government.
BTW - This is on topic... Your shaking hands with politians, and I am asking you to KNOW who's hand your shaking... and to let me know if this politian supports OPEN CARRY and respects, even supports, protects and defends the 2nd Amendment to the Constition of the United States of America.
Bat.
P.S. It could never happen in America.... right?
Bat
I have to disagree with you, the suits only do what we allow them to do. Hitler for example only did what he did because he had the support of the German people. The German people elected Hitler. The German people supported rounding up the Jews and confiscating their wealth in a scenario very similar to the current lets make the rich pay their fair share we see happening in America today.
We the People are responsible for the current mess we are in, not the suits.
And yes thank God for the 2nd Amendment the Jews in Germany did not have that option.
Bat
I have to disagree with you, the suits only do what we allow them to do. Hitler for example only did what he did because he had the support of the German people. The German people elected Hitler. The German people supported rounding up the Jews and confiscating their wealth in a scenario very similar to the current lets make the rich pay their fair share we see happening in America today.
We the People are responsible for the current mess we are in, not the suits.
And yes thank God for the 2nd Amendment the Jews in Germany did not have that option.
- Had it not been for the hysterical propaganda being fed to the German people, the idea of mass-genocide probably wouldn't have entered the common persons mind. The War would have never happened if their leaders produced a peaceful means to an end. You are still validating my point by simply saying "thank God for the 2nd Amendment the Jews in Germany did not have that option" - You know how many German people, even in the reich tried to kill Hitler because they realised the horror of his vision? - Yet how many followed more him? Why did they follow him- Did everyone in germany wake up one day and say "Hey guys, lets go kill the jews" ... How did they get that idea in the first place? - How did that become a "good idea"? (answer: a government's "vision" and hystrical media mixed with desperate times ... sound familure?) ... And to that, what sort of silly ideas is our government feeding our people, and where will we go in the future. Should we not be concerned? Hmm.. McDonnalds does sound good right now, and I think my show is on soon...
- I can only lay a small portion of the blame on "The People"... because too many are just followers. It is up to the leaders to lead with honorable intent. Powerful people with abberant vison create abberant societies.
- The people in America are to busy eating cheeseburgers and watching American Idol to notice whats going on. They dont exercize their rights enough to even realise they are losing them... Those of us that are awake enough to realise history, and can see the trend that the USA is on are considered "radicals" or "freeks" .. even by their own peers (read this thread)?
- Open Carry, the 2nd Amendment, to me, is not a commercial media venture... to me it is an expression of American Freedom. It is the weigh and scale that I use to determin a government's (and it's workers) willingness to allow me autonomy, indipendance, and how they will steer the country in favor of the people, or in favor of themselves, the banks, the mongers.
- So to topic.. YES.... I wanted to know if Newt has given solid statements, track record, and support of OC, 2-A, "we the people" ... or is he just smiling and shaking hands?... Whats his "vision" ?
Anyways - Have fun guys, going to work on my Harley now.
Bat
P.S. RE: Rich People...
~ I am NOT about taking from the rich to give to the poor!!
-- > I AM ABOUT HAVING A FAIR CHANCE TO GET RICH or make a comfortable living in a high speed, low drag economy that supports hard work and dedication. I greatly admire those that worked hard to get rich, and would never infringe upon their rights to be so. I work hard to be comfortable too.-
However: Those that use that wealth to keep others poor so that they can have power over them - are evil.
Any vote for Mitt, Newt, or Rick is a vote for more victim disarmament, more gun control, and more restrictions on our civil rights.