MKEgal
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putting it in post 2 for formatting around the ad
WND said:The school principal, police and child welfare officials said there would need to be an investigation to determine whether he had a gun in his home that children could find.
Alison Scott, executive director of Family and Children’s Services, told the Record, “From a public safety point of view, any child drawing a picture of guns and saying there’s guns in a home would warrant some further conversation with the parents and child.”
Waterloo Regional Police Inspector Kevin Thaler said Forest Hill public school had complained that “a firearm was in a residence and children had access to it. We had every concern, based on this information, that children were in danger.”
He told the paper the school officials’ concern wasn’t based merely on the girl’s picture. Neaveh, Sansone’s daughter, also purportedly made remarks about the drawing that troubled officials.
When a teacher asked Neaveh who the man in the picture was, she purportedly said, “That’s my daddy’s. He uses it to shoot bad guys and monsters.”
Calgary Herald said:At some point during the investigation, police became aware that the gun was a toy pistol, information that was confirmed when they found it in the family's home later that day, said Thaler.
"The kids were scared," said Thaler. "It is a four-year-old that we're taking the information from, but the fact is that this disclosure was very descriptive and very alarming to the officers investigating this."
Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/Father+arrested+girl+picture/6209132/story.html#ixzz1nPnDEETY
9yo takes gun to school, somehow it goes off (concussion/jostling from backpack being dropped on desk), shoots classmate.
Here's the CBS article, with link to another report.
I think the parents & boy should be required to take at least one firearm safety class, maybe repeating it every 2 or 3 years. And the mother who was negligent in storing her pistol should be charged for that. But I don't think the boy could foresee what might happen, so at the most he would be guilty of negligence?
I don't think the boy should be charged with anything, really.
K-Pax? Felons are disbarred their Second Amendment Rights so far.According to the article both parents have "criminal records", so why did the mother even have posession of a firearm? Pax...
K-Pax? Felons are disbarred their Second Amendment Rights so far.
If a felon may properly be disbarred his rights under color of law, then we all can be legally disarmed merely by sufficiently lowering the bar of felony as has been done for almost every minority group, stressed vets, alleged domestics and now inadequate parents.
Be careful of who you lie with, you may get off with only fleas.
(Kevin Spacey doesn't live here) A felon has proven by his/her actions a natural inclination toward untrustworthy behavior! How do you make sense out of a philosophy that allows the felon free access to the tools necessary to commit even more criminal acts? (And the act is not "inadequate parenting" - it is willful disregard for the safety of others, resulting in serious physical injury.) "Lowering the bar of felony, blahblahblah..." is missing sufficient detailed information to even comment upon.
Racial and ethnic "minority groups" are not restricted from possessing firearms, nor are "stressed vets"... perhaps the "minority groups" to which you refer, are the mentally ill/mentally insufficient.
There are a lot of dead/maimed/crippled spouses who would argue the alleged part of "alleged domestics" issue with you (the dead ones can't actively argue though). Pax...
Don't tell me that a stressed vets can own a gun, because not all can. My sister's father-in-law can't just because he suffers from PDS. And I will argue that firearms aren't necessary to commit most crimes of violence. And to be perfectly honest with you Gil, criminals have pretty easy access to firearms anyways. I don't see how legalizing it would make it very much easier to get them. Preventative measures don't seem to work too well for people that don't want to prevent it.
Some can, some can't. ALL does not apply. If by "stressed" you mean PTSD, I can understand why they are restricted. Firearms are the most used weapon in crimes of violence - they generally remove the "up close and personal" aspect of violent acts. And the old, worn out "criminals have easy access to firearms anyway" line serves no useful purpose, nor does it justify anything, and I didn't even suggest legalizing guns for felons. Pax...
And good sir, IF THEY HAVE NOT HAD A COURT HEARING WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED AS MENTALLY DEFECTIVE THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD THEIR GUN RIGHTS INTERFERED WITH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And good sir, IF THEY HAVE NOT HAD A COURT HEARING WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED AS MENTALLY DEFECTIVE THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD THEIR GUN RIGHTS INTERFERED WITH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When it comes to psychiatric diagnosis or testimony, when it does actually get into court, psych's too often don't agree with each other. In testimony in the late '80s or 90's the director on the National Institute for Mental Health admitted to congress that psychiatry does not know the cause of mental illness.
Basically, what I'm saying here is that there is some really, really fishy stuff going on with psychiatry. And, some really dark, sinister stuff in its history.
In philosophy of science and epistemology, psychology is dismissed as non-science or relegated to the left-hand of the rigor-continuum for its embrace of adhockery - facts and principles continuously modified to shore-up weak arguments.
As a formerly practicing clinical psychologist, I can assure you that psychiatry as practiced today is very, very dangerous to us all. I can also assure you that no form of preemptive "law" prevents people from harming themselves or others if that is their desire.
And, just to round things off. My sons learned gun safety right along with the idea of leaving other people's property alone at the age of 2 and 3... a nine year old usually has the capacity to handle a gun quite well, let alone understand the requirements for safety. Any person who truly can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted with ANYTHING and belongs in a cage or with a keeper.
The incredible degradation of our society into a mass of helpless infants and fools seems to be following the intended course quite well.