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    Salt Lake City Police Chief Burbank carries gun to intimidate fearful public

    Why Open Carry instills fear, and why it's understandable (opinion of a Police Chief)

    Salt Lake City Police Chief Burbank carries gun to intimidate fearful public
    “Right from the start, let me say that I honor the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, although the editor in me wants to clarify its language to make it easier to understand,” columnist Peg McEntee for The Salt Lake City Tribune claims in a Friday opinion piece.

    Evidently from McEntee’s “clarification,” the way she would “honor” it is to remove “and bear” from the text, as her column quickly degenerates into a hit piece against lawful open carry—that is, the prevalent practice and custom at the time the Constitution was ratified.

    “Simply seeing someone carrying a handgun, rifle or shotgun can cause fear among the unarmed,” McEntee asserts as an unqualified universal truism. “If I were to see someone with a .45 strapped to his hip, I’d have no idea who that person is and what his intentions are and would get out of there quick.”

    So the conduct of the person would not factor into things?

    Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank weighs in, telling McEntee “a bad guy with a loaded weapon can do ‘a lot of damage very fast,” while admitting that “in his 20 years as a policeman, ‘we’ve had very few problems and concealed-weapons holders. It’s not a big issue.’”

    Yet “bad guys” predominantly carry concealed. So why would he assume an openly carrying citizen, conducting himself peaceably, would be “a big issue”? Especially since the record in other open carry states shows that—as with initial “Dodge City/blood-in-the-streets-over fender-benders” hysteria raised over concealed carry—such fears have proven to be unfounded?

    Perhaps the chief’s mindset explains. Perhaps this is simply projection:

    But open-carry is different, he adds. For example, a law enforcement officer openly carries a weapon for its “intimidation factor. In law enforcement, that’s the message you send.”


    That Chief Burbank is giving official sanction to doing exactly that which the hoplophobes accuse peaceable gun owners of does not register on Peg’s irony meter?

    Evidently not, and that’s OK with some of the comment posters, coming up with such powerful intellectual arguments against those siding with liberty as accusing them of smelling, of being “paranoid, egotistical, pretend cowboys,” or a “card carrying member of the KKK or a white supremest” [sic], and of course, the obligatory master debaters who feel compelled to inject rocket launchers and penis size into the discussion.

    So is Second Amendment-honoring Peg saying she’s OK with armed citizens as long as she doesn’t see their guns? Isn’t that the reason frightened little children pull the covers over their heads, to shield themselves from the bogeyman? Isn't that why we put blinders on horses, to keep them from spooking at things which are not a threat, but which they might perceive as a catalyst for ignorance-induced panic?

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    Cops don't OC because of the "intimidation factor"--they do it PURELY for the utility of OC--faster draw, easier access, and more sure positive grip in initial action.

    This "top cop" is a disgrace to his badge, and to the Constitution which he swore to uphold. If he wears a gun to intimidate and cause fear, then he is a sociopath, and being in high office is a danger to the good people of his city, and a threat to the peace of his community and entire State.

    He should be rode out of town on a rail, and replaced with someone who actually cares about his community, rather than some self-important, control-freak sociopath who enjoys lording over his subject...

    Stories like this make me ashamed to be a US Citizen...
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    But open-carry is different, he adds. For example, a law enforcement officer openly carries a weapon for its “intimidation factor. In law enforcement, that’s the message you send.”
    Psychological projection. He wants to intimidate you. This man is not a police officer. He's a bully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbinator View Post
    Psychological projection. He wants to intimidate you. This man is not a police officer. He's a bully.
    UNFORTUNATELY, he is a bully with a badge!
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    Simply seeing someone carrying a handgun, rifle or shotgun can cause fear among the unarmed..."
    It's the unarmed people's choice to be unarmed. Her statement implies being armed lessens or eliminates the fear, so the obvious solution is...

    I don't think I ever felt fear at seeing other people who were armed, as I never equated "open carry" with "criminal." Whether it was a roommate in college, the guy I worked with at a fitness center, or more recently, friends who were themselves OCing, it's always been an "ooh! ahh!" thing, not a "crap - he's got a gun!" thing.

    That this lady is saying the public is afraid is little more than her projecting her own fears, rather than an accurate depiction of the public.
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