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    Is owning property really sufficient to get a CCW in Oregon?

    There's a section of the law that appears to say that, for purposes of getting a CCW, you're a resident of an (Oregon) county if you own property (statute doesn't say "residence") in that county. That would imply that even if you aren't a resident of Oregon or a state neighboring Oregon (the usual rules) you can still get a CCW. Indeed, that further implies that you'd get a resident, not a non-resident, permit because you are, for purposes of the statute, a resident. Is this a correct reading of the law? If so it gives a new purpose to owning a $50 tax parcel.

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    Care to cite the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    Care to cite the law?
    I believe it's 166.291-9(c)

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    looks like the ownership of real property IS enough to get your oregon non resident, that and a demonstrable need... like um, self defense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddybearfrmhell View Post
    looks like the ownership of real property IS enough to get your oregon non resident, that and a demonstrable need... like um, self defense?
    I'm not sure you'd need to show demonstrable need, 9(c) applies to the resident section, which is shall issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randian View Post
    I'm not sure you'd need to show demonstrable need, 9(c) applies to the resident section, which is shall issue.
    i stand corrected
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddybearfrmhell View Post
    i stand corrected
    Even if I am correct, there is still the matter of avoiding arrest or major hassle should you show a cop a resident CCW and a non-Oregon ID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randian View Post
    Even if I am correct, there is still the matter of avoiding arrest or major hassle should you show a cop a resident CCW and a non-Oregon ID.
    If they do their job properly, they would verify the permit with dispatch or their MDC and confirm it was valid.

    I know several sheriff's offices offer non-resident permits (Ex. Grant County), however I don't know if the permit says Non-Resident or Resident on it. My Washington CPL says Resident and lists my OR DL #.
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    Interesting randian, thanks for pointing out this tidbit about residency and CHLs. I believe you're correct in your interpretation and I'd like to hear about the difficulty or ease in obtaining a CHL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbait View Post
    I know several sheriff's offices offer non-resident permits (Ex. Grant County), however I don't know if the permit says Non-Resident or Resident on it. My Washington CPL says Resident and lists my OR DL #.
    My Josephine County (Oregon) permit does not say resident on it, however it does have my address thus indicating that I am a resident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randian View Post
    There's a section of the law that appears to say that, for purposes of getting a CCW, you're a resident of an (Oregon) county if you own property (statute doesn't say "residence") in that county. That would imply that even if you aren't a resident of Oregon or a state neighboring Oregon (the usual rules) you can still get a CCW. Indeed, that further implies that you'd get a resident, not a non-resident, permit because you are, for purposes of the statute, a resident. Is this a correct reading of the law? If so it gives a new purpose to owning a $50 tax parcel.
    For the purpose of a CHL, resident is defines as anyone who ownes or leases property, is registered to vote, or has a OR DL or ID card as per 166.291.

    If you have any of those you are treated as a resident and it's shall-issue.

    As far as carrying a second form of ID, it's not required, an Oregon CHL is all you need to carry.

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    I you are a non-resident, but live in a contiguous state, just get your permit from Grant Co. "All and Any Lawful purpose", is enough reason for Sheriff Palmer. If you do not live in a contiguous state, the property ownership might do it. I'd get the property in Grant Co. myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randian View Post
    There's a section of the law that appears to say that, for purposes of getting a CCW, you're a resident of an (Oregon) county if you own property (statute doesn't say "residence") in that county. That would imply that even if you aren't a resident of Oregon or a state neighboring Oregon (the usual rules) you can still get a CCW. Indeed, that further implies that you'd get a resident, not a non-resident, permit because you are, for purposes of the statute, a resident. Is this a correct reading of the law? If so it gives a new purpose to owning a $50 tax parcel.
    There is no such thing as a CCW in Oregon, only CHL's

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    My Multnomah county permit does not have anything on it listing me as a non resident.

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