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    S.W.A.T. stalks protesters outside Capitol

    I had no idea this ever happened before. I wonder if they shadow us?

    Bob McDonnell deploys State Police SWAT team against peaceful candlelight vigil






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    Capitol Police Chief explains response to pro-choice vigil

    Capitol Police Chief explains response to pro-choice vigil
    Whiting and Wilmore both describe seeing police in full riot gear, and in numbers that were not proportional to their peaceful gathering.

    “It was surprising that they would bring out such a big force,” she said. “It was a little intimidating.”

    Pike agreed, the protest was peaceful and those in attendance were cooperative with his officers. He explained that in addition to Capitol Police, the State Police was on hand guarding the Executive Mansion. The Virginia State Police handles all protection of the governor and his family. The governor has no say in the level of that protection.

    He also said that the perceived heavy level of force was not there to keep the protestors in line, but to prevent a serious incident if a counter protest were to erupt.

    “We heard chatter all day about this group or that group potentially showing up at the Capitol,” said Pike. “We don’t want to see anyone get hurt, so we take all necessary precautions.”
    Gee, good to know -- for future reference.

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    Since the police "openly carry arms in order to intimidate", is there any question as to whether or not they would use SWAT officers for the same?

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    The old "heard chatter we alls on high alert" Bull$hit again!

    They did the same thing a month or so ago with a Tea party protest I videoed.

    BTW, the fellow with the Balclava is committing a felony.
    § 18.2-422. Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.
    It shall be unlawful for any person over sixteen years of age while wearing any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon (a) the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device, or (b) the declaration of a disaster or state of emergency by the Governor in response to a public health emergency where the emergency declaration expressly waives this section, defines the mask appropriate for the emergency, and provides for the duration of the waiver. The violation of any provisions of this section shall constitute a Class 6 felony.
    (Code 1950, §§ 18.1-364, 18.1-367; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1986, c. 19; 2010, cc. 262, 420.)
    There's no exemption for sillya$$ed squareheads who've been watching too many GI Joe movies.



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    Angry "They" would justify it under

    Subparagaph (ii)

    "engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons;"
    The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
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    Peter, would probably be argued as acceptable under (ii).

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverrat10k View Post
    Peter, would probably be argued as acceptable under (ii).

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    I'd love to hear how they would argue that.

    "Your Honor, we put our life on the line every day and it's jungle out there so I have to hide my identity from those that would take my picture, put it on the internet and make fun of me".

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    Thumbs down

    It's in case they decide to start flinging tear gas at civilians so that their breathing is protected when it is hurled back at them.

    Or some-such.
    The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
    And the newest slavery is to keep the people poor, and stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I'd love to hear how they would argue that.

    "Your Honor, we put our life on the line every day and it's jungle out there so I have to hide my identity from those that would take my picture, put it on the internet and make fun of me".
    Was thinking the same thing. A gas mask could be PPE but just wearing a mask to hide you identity is a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uber_Olafsun View Post
    Was thinking the same thing. A gas mask could be PPE but just wearing a mask to hide you identity is a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    I had no idea this ever happened before. I wonder if they shadow us?

    Bob McDonnell deploys State Police SWAT team against peaceful candlelight vigil





    They do. When we were up there for Lobby Day (2010?), my wife and I took a walk around the capitol grounds on our way back to our car. As we walked from the Governor's Mansion toward the street that's in front of the Virginia Library, we saw over 50 VSP Troopers carrying riot shields leaving that building and heading for their cars. We walked to our car among them. We saw no sign of this when we arrived (about 8:30 am).

    Maybe they were expecting trouble?
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    BTW, the fellow with the Balclava is committing a felony.


    There's no exemption for sillya$$ed squareheads who've been watching too many GI Joe movies.


    Is there an exemption for asians who walk around Blacksburg wearing surgical masks?


    As to the OP, where's PALO to argue how awesome it is to have SWAT running around pointing AR15s at protesters?
    Last edited by marshaul; 02-29-2012 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    where's PALO to argue how awesome it is to have SWAT running around pointing AR15s at protesters?
    On special detachment down at the dunkin' with his buddies protecting the fresh glazed and powdered.
    Last edited by mk4; 02-29-2012 at 06:17 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriff View Post
    Let's assume Johnny Law is indeed breaking the law by wearing the mask.

    Who's gonna charge him? You would never find a magistrate or judge willing to write the warrant.
    Yep!
    That pretty much says it all.

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    Hide n seak?
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocholsteroc View Post



    Hide n seek?
    I was thinking "Get a room" but your caption works, too.

    And why is that Capitol dude smiling?

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    Sheepish grin at being caught in an embarrassing situation, it looks like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocholsteroc View Post



    Hide n seak?
    Maybe takin' a whiz .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocholsteroc View Post



    Hide n seak?
    Just hangin' out.

    Last edited by marshaul; 03-01-2012 at 03:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    I was thinking "Get a room" but your caption works, too.

    And why is that Capitol dude smiling?
    Because its funny.

    The guy on the left reminds me of Iroquois "David" Pliskin and the guy on the right Colonel Roy Campbell
    Last edited by ocholsteroc; 03-01-2012 at 04:12 PM.
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    Maybe they were expecting trouble?
    In order to understand who is looking for a riot... see who showed up dressed for one.
    Last edited by wylde007; 03-01-2012 at 04:13 PM.
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    3 guys concealed in the bushes, behavior normally observed at highway rest stops.
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    Y'all are hilarious!!!
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    ROFL!! ChinChin doesn't speak often, but when he does...
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    Compare: well-behaved gun rights activists vs. Abortion activists

    Gun rights activists are universally well-behaved, right? See how nice and well-mannered we all are, right?

    Even when we are disappointed.

    But, compare our behavior (and low numbers this Lobby Day) to what happened today:

    31 arrested as hundreds protest abortion law at state Capitol
    Capt. Raymond Goodloe of the Virginia Division of Capitol Police said 17 women and 14 men were arrested. He did not have a breakdown on charges but said those arrested were likely accused of either trespassing or unalawful assembly.

    The arrests took place after some protesters, who had marched on downtown streets before entering Capitol Square, refused to leave the south steps of the Capitol. They were hauled off by officers and taken away in a bus parked nearby while other armed officers held protesters at bay with riot shields.
    What happened was these defiant protesters exceeded their permit time limit.

    Governor McDonnell, kill the bill!









    The whole world is watching?

    WRVA claims a THOUSAND people showed up. More than VCDL people could muster. Wow.

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