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    Voice Recorder Purchase

    Okay -- I'm in.

    I'm looking for a voice recorder. Here are my requirements:

    • SD or MicroSD Card for Storage -- I don't like the built in storage types. Call it personal preference.
    • Built in microphone and jack for detachable (ex: lapel mic) microphone. This way I can carry the recorder in my pocket and have a mic wire come up and clip on the opening of a button-up shirt.
    • Must be able to fit into a front pocket without printing much also.
    • Greater battery life preferred.
    • Cost, while a consideration, is not a big factor.


    Those are my requirements. Suggestions appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Okay -- I'm in.

    I'm looking for a voice recorder. Here are my requirements:

    • SD or MicroSD Card for Storage -- I don't like the built in storage types. Call it personal preference.
    • Built in microphone and jack for detachable (ex: lapel mic) microphone. This way I can carry the recorder in my pocket and have a mic wire come up and clip on the opening of a button-up shirt.
    • Must be able to fit into a front pocket without printing much also.
    • Greater battery life preferred.
    • Cost, while a consideration, is not a big factor.


    Those are my requirements. Suggestions appreciated.
    One suggestion: Google Only you know what will work for you.

    P.S. every time I have met you, I was carrying video & audio recorder(s). Yet you could not see them. It is easier to do than one may think.
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    This is the one on my amazon wish list http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Digital-F...=328BIN08554MR

    It's got all the features you're asking for except the remote mic jack. But for FWIW, I've used a more basic model by sony and just left it in my pocket for a walk and was able to pick up conversations from 20+ feet away that I didn't even notice while I was walking. Mic quality shouldn't be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock9mmOldStyle View Post
    One suggestion: Google Only you know what will work for you.

    P.S. every time I have met you, I was carrying video & audio recorder(s). Yet you could not see them. It is easier to do than one may think.
    Good on you G9mm my friend.

    May I suggest to one and all....!!!!!!!!

    If you are using a covert audio or video/audio recorder....

    DO NOT POST WHAT IT IS ON THE INTERNET OR IN ANY FORUMS!

    Please share that information in private messages or in person at an OC meeting/picnic/dinner.

    There is no need to alert anyone... LE or even aggressive anti gunners... as to what devices might be recording their illegal actions. After all... the chances of losing a valuable recording are greatly reduced if the other person(s) don't know what devices to "accidentally" drop and "carelessly" step on.
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    Sony ICD-PX312

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAxe View Post
    This is the one on my amazon wish list http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Digital-F...=328BIN08554MR

    It's got all the features you're asking for except the remote mic jack.
    This is the Sony ICD-PX312 that I just posted above. Yes, it does have a remote mic jack I have one in my hand right now. See pic here with a mic. It also takes both M2 and MicroSD memory cards. I find it works just fine without a remote mic, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    This is the Sony ICD-PX312 that I just posted above. Yes, it does have a remote mic jack I have one in my hand right now. See pic here with a mic. It also takes both M2 and MicroSD memory cards. I find it works just fine without a remote mic, though.
    got the same one here with(off brand radioshack) lapel mic it works great but in the end its up to you to decide what is best for you

    it was all and all $67.52 not bad for something that could save you from jailtime
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    The Sony ICD-PX312 can be found on amazon for under $50. This recorder also has a USB port, noise cut switch, and quite a few other features like different recording modes if you wanted to use it for other applications like to record meetings or lectures.
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    This recorder fits perfect in my mag pouch holder. I use it every day & have 100's of hr's recorded & saved to flash drive!! The VOR is great!


    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    The Sony ICD-PX312 can be found on amazon for under $50. This recorder also has a USB port, noise cut switch, and quite a few other features like different recording modes if you wanted to use it for other applications like to record meetings or lectures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    This is the Sony ICD-PX312 that I just posted above. Yes, it does have a remote mic jack I have one in my hand right now. See pic here with a mic. It also takes both M2 and MicroSD memory cards. I find it works just fine without a remote mic, though.

    hmmmm, looks I need to go ahead and buy that thing
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    I have the same one and love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    Good on you G9mm my friend.

    May I suggest to one and all....!!!!!!!!

    If you are using a covert audio or video/audio recorder....

    DO NOT POST WHAT IT IS ON THE INTERNET OR IN ANY FORUMS!

    Please share that information in private messages or in person at an OC meeting/picnic/dinner.

    There is no need to alert anyone... LE or even aggressive anti gunners... as to what devices might be recording their illegal actions. After all... the chances of losing a valuable recording are greatly reduced if the other person(s) don't know what devices to "accidentally" drop and "carelessly" step on.
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    It was good timing for this thread, thanks!

    I've been needing to upgrade. I just bought this one, too. Will look for a nice lapel microphone for it, as well. Geeks.com didn't seem to have any to go with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Will look for a nice lapel microphone for it, as well. Geeks.com didn't seem to have any to go with it.
    The ECM-CS3 is the one Sony pairs with it, but I'm sure many will work. Amazon has it for $16.85.
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    Trust me I have the same model and the microphone is overkill. Recall that you only want to record conversations in which YOU are a participant - record anything else and that is a felony. As long as you have it anywhere on your body even under a layer of clothing it will pick up normal conversations with crystal clairty. I picked mine up at Walmart for $60
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdr_iceman71 View Post
    Trust me I have the same model and the microphone is overkill. Recall that you only want to record conversations in which YOU are a participant - record anything else and that is a felony. As long as you have it anywhere on your body even under a layer of clothing it will pick up normal conversations with crystal clairty. I picked mine up at Walmart for $60
    Felony? Well -- no. It depends. Did they have a reasonable expectation of privacy or were they talking in a restaurant that is open to the public?
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    I just ordered the Sony ICD-PX312 and ECM-CS3 on amazon for $67. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Felony? Well -- no. It depends. Did they have a reasonable expectation of privacy or were they talking in a restaurant that is open to the public?
    My mistake you are correct I forgot about the reasonable expectation of privacy clause when in an area accesible to the general public.
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    My interpretation of the mcl is that if you record a private conversation of others accidentally or incidental to something you are doing lawfully you would not be in violation.

    Any person who is present or who is not present during a private conversation and who wilfully uses any device to eavesdrop upon the conversation without the consent of all parties thereto, or who knowingly aids, employs or procures another person to do the same in violation of this section, is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for not more than 2 years or by a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.
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    I can see a scenario, where one might have his recorder running while using a public restroom while two other people in the room are having what may be a private conversation. According to the statute, since the recording of the private conversation was not willful, rather accidental, in my non-legal opinion it would be permissible.
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    Just bought this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16873103007

    Coby COBY CXR190-2G

    Got it in the mail today and it seems great. Haven't field tested it yet so we'll see how that goes.

    $31.98 including shipping.

    Model Brand: COBY
    Model: CXR190-2G

    Features:

    -46 to 540 hours recording time depending on quality selected (without microSD)

    -MicroSD card slot allows for extended recording time (card not included)

    -Voice-activated recording system

    -4 recording-quality modes

    -Integrated omni-directional microphone

    -Time/date display

    -Audio transcoding software included (requires Microsoft XP/2000 or newer)

    Specs:

    Recording Media: 2GB + microSD Card
    PC Interface: USB
    Connector: 3.5mm Headphone jack, 3.5mm microphone jack
    Speaker: High-output speaker
    Battery: 2x AAA-size batteries

    Edit to add: Came with earphones and USB cord.
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    Couldn't resist the temptation to pick up a Sony ICD-PX312 while I was out and about the other day.
    Pretty impressed by its ability to pick up a clean conversation while poking out of my change pocket, but it didn't fit into the magazine pouch I was using for my previous recorder that ""mysteriously"" disappeared after I left it at my brother's house.
    I'm thinking about seeing if a seam ripper will allow me to expand the arm-pocket on a 5.11 shirt sufficiently to carry there.

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    How do they name these things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    How do they name these things?
    I believe they typically use some combination of letters and/or numbers.

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    geez....

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    Good pickup on the Coby and I really like the voice activated function. Get's a lot of background noise, but that's all the recorders I've used. Battery bar keeps dropping and going back up. Haven't eaten a set yet though so we'll see what the actual hour usage is later. Got about 8 hours of recording so far.

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