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    New Wahsington Times poll to hit. College carry

    There is an article that goes with this poll that worth the read.

    But the poll is Here: http://www.washingtontimes.com/polls...-weapons-when/

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    "Should colleges be able to ban concealed weapons when state law allows it?"

    The question is rather broad. Are we talking about private colleges, state colleges?

    If it is a private college, some would argue the college has a Right to ban firearms.

    If it is a state college, some would argue that the college can, and should abide by, and utilize all state laws at their disposal.

    Students ought to be permitted to carry on-campus. If the state permits it but the college says no, I would still carry but that's just me--I would just CC on-campus.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    "Should colleges be able to ban concealed weapons when state law allows it?"

    The question is rather broad. Are we talking about private colleges, state colleges?

    If it is a private college, some would argue the college has a Right to ban firearms.

    If it is a state college, some would argue that the college can, and should abide by, and utilize all state laws at their disposal.

    Students ought to be permitted to carry on-campus. If the state permits it but the college says no, I would still carry but that's just me--I would just CC on-campus.
    If you read the article you would know that they are specifically speaking about Colorado and Oregon, where the courts have struck down college rules, that the Boards of Regents just reinstated in different words.

    Maybe you would like the question to read something like "should a board of Regents, after being told by the courts they could not regulate carry on campus, be allowed to just do what they want anyway under the guise of "student safety""
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr View Post
    If you read the article you would know that they are specifically speaking about Colorado and Oregon, where the courts have struck down college rules, that the Boards of Regents just reinstated in different words.

    Maybe you would like the question to read something like (1)"should a board of Regents, after being told by the courts they could not regulate carry on campus, be allowed to just do what they want anyway under the guise of "student safety""
    (1) Not much of alternative question.

    Ought private colleges be allowed to restrict or ban CC-OC on campus? Yes.

    If each state supreme court ruled the college can't, then the college can't. They can reword it all they want, and the issue will run it's way back through the court system.

    Some on here would argue that if you don't agree with the policy then you can go to college somewhere else. IMO, private businesses ought not be permitted to ban OC-CC but that would require a Government mandate...are you willing to rely on the Federal Government if the states fail to do what they ought to do?
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    "Should colleges be able to ban concealed weapons when state law allows it?"

    The question is rather broad. Are we talking about private colleges, state colleges?
    Not only that, but the question is very poorly worded. It be taken to mean one of two things:

    1. Should colleges be able to ban concealed weapons when state law allows concealed weapons?

    2. Should colleges be able to ban concealed weapons when state law allows colleges to ban concealed weapons?

    Depends on what "it" means.

    If it is a private college, some would argue the college has a Right to ban firearms.
    That's the way the law reads here in Colorado, and I agree with it.

    If it is a state college, some would argue that the college can, and should abide by, and utilize all state laws at their disposal.
    Since Virginia Tech, my alma mater, is a state-supported school, I believe students should have the same 2A rights they do when they walk into Virginia's General Assembly while armed.

    Students ought to be permitted to carry on-campus. If the state permits it but the college says no, I would still carry but that's just me--I would just CC on-campus.
    I wish schools treated it as do businesses by posting "No Public Display of Firearms," thereby allowing CC with a permit.

    Nah. What I really wish is that Constitutional Carry were the law of the land.

    Oh, wait! It is! Or at least it's supposed to be...
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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