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do i dare dearbon public library

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rvd4now

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heres the pdf, which is there current rules..

#1 says i can carry there if primitted by law,



what do you guys think

im going there tomorrow to study orgo chem, id like to go armed


In order to ensure a safe and dignified atmosphere for all of
our patrons and library employees, anyone who violates this
code of conduct may be banned from the library premises
with suspension of library privileges. In addition, all library
users may be required to make available for inspection all
bags, briefcases, purses, containers, books and papers.
You may not:
• Carry weapons or dangerous objects, except as permitted by law
• Vandalize or steal library property
• Disregard directions of library staff
• Engage in illegal or reckless behavior
• Remain in the building or re-enter when banned
• Fight, run, roam or horseplay
• Abuse, harass, stare at or stalk other library users or staff
• Talk loudly or make noise
• Sell, solicit, panhandle or loiter
• Distribute leaflets or post notices
• Bring in animals except service animals
• Eat, use tobacco or engage in inappropriate activity
• Place feet on library furniture or equipment
• Be without shoes or shirt
• Enter with roller blades or skate boards
• Bathe, shave or wash clothes
• Enter if you have neglected your bodily hygiene
• Bring in bulky items that take up excessive space
• Leave children under six years of age unattended in the building without
adequate supervision from a caregiver who is at least 13 years of age
Violators may be subject to arrest and prosecution.
Dearborn Library Commission
September 11, 2009
 
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xmanhockey7

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rvd4now said:
heres the pdf, which is there current rules..

#1 says i can carry there if primitted by law,



what do you guys think

im going there tomorrow to study orgo chem, id like to go armed


In order to ensure a safe and dignified atmosphere for all of
our patrons and library employees, anyone who violates this
code of conduct may be banned from the library premises
with suspension of library privileges. In addition, all library
users may be required to make available for inspection all
bags, briefcases, purses, containers, books and papers.
You may not:
• Carry weapons or dangerous objects, except as permitted by law
• Vandalize or steal library property
• Disregard directions of library staff
• Engage in illegal or reckless behavior
• Remain in the building or re-enter when banned
• Fight, run, roam or horseplay
• Abuse, harass, stare at or stalk other library users or staff
• Talk loudly or make noise
• Sell, solicit, panhandle or loiter
• Distribute leaflets or post notices
• Bring in animals except service animals
• Eat, use tobacco or engage in inappropriate activity
• Place feet on library furniture or equipment
• Be without shoes or shirt
• Enter with roller blades or skate boards
• Bathe, shave or wash clothes
• Enter if you have neglected your bodily hygiene
• Bring in bulky items that take up excessive space
• Leave children under six years of age unattended in the building without
adequate supervision from a caregiver who is at least 13 years of age
Violators may be subject to arrest and prosecution.
Dearborn Library Commission
September 11, 2009
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Do you plan on carrying in a manner which is not legal per state law? If not then I don't see any problems with you carrying there.
 
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xmanhockey7 said:
Do you plan on carrying in a manner which is not legal per state law? If not then I don't see any problems with you carrying there.
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yes i know, but i think they thought that with the current cadl case and we see how that played out..

I just wanna study w/o any problems
 
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rvd4now said:
yes i know, but i think they thought that with the current cadl case and we see how that played out..

I just wanna study w/o any problems
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Well if you're that worried about OCing, assuming you have a CPL, just carry concealed.
 
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Bring the policy with you.

If confronted, give it to them, then go sit down to read. Ignore them.

Sending an armed police response to a man quietly reading in a library will send the strongest message possible.
 
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You are permitted to OC by law there, so if that's what you wish to do, do it. (I would, but that's just me).
 
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griffin said:
You are permitted to OC by law there, so if that's what you wish to do, do it. (I would, but that's just me).
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Yup, same thing here in Va. I have OC'd at my local library a few times now. I got a few gasps and pointed looks from mothers with small children, but no one ran off in a panic.

Suggestion, if allowed by your state/local law, bring a voice recorder and keep it recording!

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Leader said:
I don't know... It's not like they are a unit of government covered by preemption.
They are a "commission" , shouldn't they be able to make any laws, rules, commands, they want?
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IANAL but in my opinion if they are operated by a city they are still covered.
Sec. 2. A local unit of government shall not impose special taxation on, enact or enforce any ordinance or regulation pertaining to, or regulate in any other manner the ownership, registration, purchase, sale, transfer, transportation, or possession of pistols or other firearms, ammunition for pistols or other firearms, or components of pistols or other firearms, except as otherwise provided by federal law or a law of this state.
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By creating commissions, and authorities, and whatever else they can make a name for, they are regulating (in any other manner) the posession of firearms. Since CADL for example, cant regulate firearms as a city because of preemption, they are claiming the term "authority", in a naked attempt to subvert the law, in order regulate the possession of the firearm.
 
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Is the Library owned by the city/county directly or is it an "authority"?

If it's an authority, see the CADL case. This case is still in appeals.

If it is city/county owned, see MCRGO v Ferndale. This case is decided and binding case law.
 
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