Gee, this got long...
My initial reaction, on seeing the headline, was "of course they do".
TaurusToter said:
To keep it fair, there should be two lists. People that carry and the Anti's that don't. Both lists should be hung in the lobby of every prison in the state. I'll bet that would shut WAVE up real quick
I like it.
I think the lists should be either in the common areas where prisoners spend most of their time, or at least in the area where they're released & wait for their ride home. With scratch paper & pencils available.
Advocacy group Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort
Gee, why don't they ever describe Wisconsin Carry as an advocacy group?
Think maybe the media is just a wee bit biased?
In addition to the inability to study whether concealed carry permit holders are involved in criminal activity...
She knows as well as we do that any time someone with a license is involved in any sort of crime, or even in a self-defense situation, the media will report it.
"The background-check system itself is pretty flawed," Bonavia said.
Finally! Some honesty & common sense! I'm astounded. :shocker:
The Department of Justice... should have access to mental health records from physicians as well, Bonavia said.
As long as they also start putting every medical record into the licensing system, so people with epilepsy are also denied licenses to carry & drive.
People with narcolepsy should be restricted too.
People who have had a stroke.
People with neuromuscular disorders.
People who are taking any sort of medicine that could possibly impair their level of consciousness &/or judgment &/or motor control. (
Wanna browse my drug book to see common side effects of what you're taking before you agree with me there?)
Come to think of it, any license that in its use could possibly affect the safety or well-being of someone other than the licensee should be denied to anyone in those categories. Who knows when they'd have problems & harm someone?
The State has no business in anyone's medical records unless they're germaine to a court action.
Even then, they're supposed to be confidential, filed under seal.
I know a city that's gotten in trouble for that.
Jeri said:
Those records are pretty much nonexistent, even though it's a disqualifier for owning or using a gun
With all the other misinformation she spews, this doesn't surprise me.
No, having an illness (of any sort) is
not a disqualifier.
Being so sick that a court has to determine competency, a court has involuntarily committed someone to a mental hospital, or a court has found someone not guilty by reason of mental defect...
THOSE are disqualifiers.
Jeri said:
this has an impact on the state at large, and we have a right to know whether this is beneficial or harmful
Why does she think Wisconsin will be any different from the other 48 states that already have some provision for concealed carry? (
Yeah, I know, not all of them actually allow it, but it's in their laws.)
The worst that can be said of other states is that the rate of violent crime stays the same.
In most states, the rate of violent crime goes down - a lot - in the years immediately following implementation of a common-sense concealed carry law. (That is, either Constitutional Carry, background check only, or minimal training, as WI has.) The easier it is for good people to defend themselves, the harder it is for criminals to succeed.
Much as I'm for job creation & success, I can't see this particular failure as a Bad Thing.
BTW, I can't figure out is why W"AV"E wants to make life easier for criminals?
First they try to disarm all the good people, then they try to make lots of places criminal empowerment zones by prohibiting self-defense, now they want to make public a list of people criminals should not attack.