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    Concealed gun permit applications rise

    After the initial flood of applications for Wisconsin permits to carry a concealed gun, interest had leveled off to around 3,000 applications a week.

    But this month, interest has bumped up again, the Green Bay Press-Gazette reports.

    Since Wisconsin's CCW law took effect Nov. 1, some 82,000 licenses have been issued, state Department of Justice officials told the paper, of the 96,000 sought. Nearly 2,000 applications were denied; others are pending.

    The department has had to shift employees to the permit section and relied on overtime to issue permits within the 21 day schedule set by the CCW statute.

    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/142303825.html

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    Enough applications for 1.64 percent of the population

    At the rate of 3,000 more per week, it will reach 2 percent in seven weeks, at the end of April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccwinstructor View Post
    Since Wisconsin's CCW law took effect Nov. 1, some 82,000 licenses have been issued, state Department of Justice officials told the paper, of the 96,000 sought. Nearly 2,000 applications were denied; others are pending.

    The department has had to shift employees to the permit section and relied on overtime to issue permits within the 21 day schedule set by the CCW statute.
    A right turned into a privilege for a price and the State of Wisconsin has collected $4.7 million in the process with more money to be had.
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    What is it that makes the words "concealed carry license" so magical? Magical in the sense that they unleash such passions of support or passions of disfavor. Passions that cause both sides of the issue to become tunneled visioned so that no one takes time to do proper evaluation of the issue.

    Since Nov. 1, 2011 approximately 90,000 concealed carry licenses have been issued by the DoJ. Presuming there are 3.5 million people in Wisconsin of gun carrying age the 90,000 represents 2.5% of the population. On the other hand each year Wisconsin sells nearly 750,000 hunting licenses. Gun deer hunting alone accounts for 600,000 plus. Adding bear licenses, small game licenses, turkey licenses to that count certainly raises the total to 750,000 plus, even accounting for multiple licenses per hunter. That means 21% of the population purchase hunting licenses that allows them to carry loaded firearms throughout the lands and woods of Wisconsin. Licenses that don't require a background check before issuance. In fact the purchase of which is encouraged by the State.

    The Wisconsin hunting season is not just one week in November. It starts mid September and for one species or another extends through Spring turkey hunting near mid May. Why is it that for eight months out of the year up to 21% of the population can be trusted to carry a firearm in public for the purpose of hunting, yet the antis and law enforcement want to criminalize the 2.5% that wish to carry a concealed firearm for security and defense? Article I section 25 reads "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose". In the eyes of section 25 all those activities are equal.

    I repeat: If 21% of the population is trustworthy enough to carry loaded firearms for hunting throughout the state without mandate of a background check, why is 2.5% of the population not trustworthy enough to carry a firearm for security and defense? Especially when a license to do so requires mandated training, a background check and scrutiny by the DoJ. Too me it defies logic. The answer of course is politics and pursuit of a self centered agenda. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the anti personal protection people aren't themselves hunters. Maybe even Flynn himself.

    Too me 90,000 law abiding persons carrying concealed weapons scattered throughout a population of 3.5 million hardly presents a statewide problem.

    My opinion.

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    Because even the Soviet Union allowed hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Nemo View Post
    What is it that makes the words "concealed carry license" so magical? Magical in the sense that they unleash such passions of support or passions of disfavor. Passions that cause both sides of the issue to become tunneled visioned so that no one takes time to do proper evaluation of the issue.

    Since Nov. 1, 2011 approximately 90,000 concealed carry licenses have been issued by the DoJ. Presuming there are 3.5 million people in Wisconsin of gun carrying age the 90,000 represents 2.5% of the population. On the other hand each year Wisconsin sells nearly 750,000 hunting licenses. Gun deer hunting alone accounts for 600,000 plus. Adding bear licenses, small game licenses, turkey licenses to that count certainly raises the total to 750,000 plus, even accounting for multiple licenses per hunter. That means 21% of the population purchase hunting licenses that allows them to carry loaded firearms throughout the lands and woods of Wisconsin. Licenses that don't require a background check before issuance. In fact the purchase of which is encouraged by the State.

    The Wisconsin hunting season is not just one week in November. It starts mid September and for one species or another extends through Spring turkey hunting near mid May. Why is it that for eight months out of the year up to 21% of the population can be trusted to carry a firearm in public for the purpose of hunting, yet the antis and law enforcement want to criminalize the 2.5% that wish to carry a concealed firearm for security and defense? Article I section 25 reads "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose". In the eyes of section 25 all those activities are equal.

    I repeat: If 21% of the population is trustworthy enough to carry loaded firearms for hunting throughout the state without mandate of a background check, why is 2.5% of the population not trustworthy enough to carry a firearm for security and defense? Especially when a license to do so requires mandated training, a background check and scrutiny by the DoJ. Too me it defies logic. The answer of course is politics and pursuit of a self centered agenda. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the anti personal protection people aren't themselves hunters. Maybe even Flynn himself.

    Too me 90,000 law abiding persons carrying concealed weapons scattered throughout a population of 3.5 million hardly presents a statewide problem.

    My opinion.
    Concealed carry confirms the right of citizens to use force. It confirms that the ultimate sovreign is the individual citizen, not the State. It confirms that the federal and state constitutions means something, and are not infinitely maleable by the courts, and that government is limited by the rule of law.

    All of those things are opposed by statists who hate being restrained by the rule of law, distain the citizen, and preach the rights of the group(which effectively mean no rights) vs the effective rights of the individual.

    So, CCW is a symbolic step away from tyranny and back toward the rule of law. It shows that the MSM no longer controls the flow of information so that the left controls the public discourse. It shows that we can restore the Constitution, rather than descend into socialist tyranny. Much of the faith of the left depends on their belief that their philosophy will ultimately triumph. CCW is a step away from the future of total control that they envision, which is why they oppose it so vigorously, and constitutionalists push it so vigorously. It is the camels nose under the tent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccwinstructor View Post
    Concealed carry confirms the right of citizens to use force. It confirms that the ultimate sovereign is the individual citizen, not the State. It confirms that the federal and state constitutions means something, and are not infinitely maleable by the courts, and that government is limited by the rule of law.

    All of those things are opposed by statists who hate being restrained by the rule of law, distain the citizen, and preach the rights of the group(which effectively mean no rights) vs the effective rights of the individual.

    So, CCW is a symbolic step away from tyranny and back toward the rule of law. It shows that the MSM no longer controls the flow of information so that the left controls the public discourse. It shows that we can restore the Constitution, rather than descend into socialist tyranny. Much of the faith of the left depends on their belief that their philosophy will ultimately triumph. CCW is a step away from the future of total control that they envision, which is why they oppose it so vigorously, and constitutionalists push it so vigorously. It is the camels nose under the tent.
    This was the best use of 192 words that I have read in a long, long time. I think I will print it out, frame it, and hang it on my wall.... Thanks for the goosebumps and the tear, ccwinstructor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    This was the best use of 192 words that I have read in a long, long time. I think I will print it out, frame it, and hang it on my wall.... Thanks for the goosebumps and the tear, ccwinstructor.
    Thank you for the kind words.

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