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    Greater Lynchburg Transit Company No Weapons

    I had a question for some of you more legally minded folks. GLTC (the bus company) for lynchburg does take public funds.
    They also according to their website ban all weapons: http://www.gltconline.com/page.php?t...nformation.xml
    Wouldn't they fall under pre-emption?

    Thanks!
    James

    P.S. I could also be wrong about the tax payer funding. I just thought they did take some city/tax money. Just wanted to see if any lynchburg area people knew some details.

    P.S.S. It does take > $1 million from tax payers. (page 11 of proposed budget) http://www.mediafire.com/?44bdi7al87ct9qt
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    Oh they definitely take taxpayer funding. They are constantly at city council asking for more and more money to operate. I'll dig up some info.

    Here's the Wiki article:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater...ransit_Company
    Last edited by jmelvin; 03-20-2012 at 03:18 PM.

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    GLTConline resource titled "The Economic Impact of GLTC on the Lynchburg Region" dated February 15, 2010 indicates in Chapter 2 "GLTC was established in 1974 as a non-profit company owned by the City of Lynchburg, Virginia. Its mission is "to provide safe, dependable, affordable, accessible, and high quality public transportation to the Central Virginia community"". The paper also states that the GLTC Board of Directors are appointed by the Lynchburg City Council. The Board of Directors selects a management company to oversee daily operations and implement Board decisions. First Transit Management services is the current management company and provides various support roles to GLTC.

    Sounds like we have ourselve a 15.2-915 infraction to me as GLTC is owned by the City of Lynchburg and First Transit Management is the city's agent in the operation of the city's bus service. Jero want to sit down and discuss over dinner how to do a "cease and desist" type letter later this week?

    User or VCDL President if you peek in on this discussion do you have any suggestions for a situation like this? I've addressed a few counties over their 15.2-915 infractions and they've changed their ways, but I'm not sure if I go the same way with a city's agent.
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    Sure lets do it just text me with details!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jero1987 View Post
    Sure lets do it just text me with details!
    Will do. Probably not tonight, maybe tomorrow though.

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    What do I know from squat, but from looking at the info presented, it seems like a slam dunk! Good find!

    My comment would be to first assume that they are ignorant, and generally law-abiding folks. If you show them the law, and their exposure to liability from litigation, that should spur quick action. If not, then you take off the gloves!

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    Sounds like a good approach TFred. That's the approach I used with Campbell County for their parks, and Tazewell for their parks too. It worked in both cases.

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    now that LU has stopped their contract with GLTC, will they even survive?? falwell also said he'd like to do away with the train station downtown and put it somewhere near LU. wouldnt surprise me if he takes it over soon

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    LU?

    Assume nothing about what LU has said publicly. Wait for them to actually take action. Then you will know their true intentions.

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    Gentlemen, load your cameras, prime your recorders, poison your pens.....and CHARGE!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snazuolu View Post
    now that LU has stopped their contract with GLTC, will they even survive?? falwell also said he'd like to do away with the train station downtown and put it somewhere near LU. wouldnt surprise me if he takes it over soon
    As long as they take $1.15 million from VA taxpayers, they better follow the law.

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    Just got an email. I believe our friend Ed has gotten the ban removed. Woot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jero1987 View Post
    Just got an email. I believe our friend Ed has gotten the ban removed. Woot!
    Dear Mr Levine:
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    > I have received your email about the automated announcement on GLTC's
    > buses concerning weapons. I have consulted with legal counsel and we are
    > removing the notice on the website immediately, and will update our PA
    > system and any printed material as soon as practical.
    >
    > Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.
    >
    > Respectfully,
    >
    > Michael J. Carroll
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    > General Manager, GLTC
    > PO Box 797
    > Lynchburg, VA 24505
    > 434.455.5084 (V)
    > 434.847.8621 (F)
    > 434.546.3029 (C)
    > "Go Green, Ride Blue"
    Carry On.

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    Just got an email. I believe our friend Ed has gotten the ban removed. Woot!

    Dear Mr Levine:

    I have received your email about the automated announcement on GLTC's buses concerning weapons. I have consulted with legal counsel and we are removing the notice on the website immediately, and will update our PA system and any printed material as soon as practical.

    Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.

    Respectfully,

    Michael J. Carroll

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    Good job guys!

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    This is good news indeed! Thank you everyone for getting this addressed!

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    Good stuff, thanks Ed for sending the note and Jero for identifying this issue. For some reason my workplace has GLTConline blocked so this saves me from having to access it at home, instead of during a coffee break or such.
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    Nice catch Jero, and what can I say, Ed?

    Ya' know I think we should all look into Ed's postcard thingy. As jmelvin noted, sometimes all it takes is a polite note that they could have liability.

    Well done to the three of you!

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    It definitely proves that the polite, "hey, just trying to prevent a problem for you" approach definitely is better than immediately being confrontational.

    Of course, if they don't go for the velvet glove, the iron fist is always in reserve inside.

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    Oh yeah

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    This one is put to bed. The updates went out to the bus announcement system Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half_life1052 View Post
    This one is put to bed. The updates went out to the bus announcement system Sunday.
    Great! Thanks for the update.

    Ed
    Carry On.

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