I see in your last post he has matured from child to young man.
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I see in your last post he has matured from child to young man.
rcawdor57
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"George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC News."
"In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he saw a man fitting Zimmerman's description lying on the grass moaning and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that killed Martin."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239#.T3HTrmHvoSE
"According to Zimmerman’s account to police, he had been walking back towards his SUV when Martin approached him from behind. The two “exchanged words” before Martin punched Zimmerman in the nose. Zimmerman fell to the ground, where, he says, Martin proceeded to beat him, bashing his head against the sidewalk:"
http://www.mediaite.com/online/geor...from-behind-bashed-his-head-against-sidewalk/
"With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk, leaving him bloody and battered, law-enforcement authorities told the Orlando Sentinel."
"One witness, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him — and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help."
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager
"But according to police reports cited in the Sentinel, Mr. Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle after having lost Trayvon when the youth approached him from behind. The two exchanged words, Mr. Zimmerman said, and Trayvon then punched him in the nose, jumped on top of him and began banging his head on a sidewalk. Mr. Zimmerman said he began crying for help and then shot Trayvon in the chest."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/police-report-trayvon-jumped-watch-shooter/
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rcawdor57
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One question for you: Would this have happened had George Zimmerman not followed and confronted Martin?
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Your false accusation has been noted FFR.
Big Dipper
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Assuming you were not there, where did you find the "fact" that Zimmerman confronted Martin?
I have not read that anywhere except as conjecture by people discussing (and filling in the blanks themselves) the unfortunate situation.
Police records, and facts released by city.
These are two links I think you will want to read:
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...n_shooting.pdf
These are two links I think you will want to read:
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...n_shooting.pdf
rcawdor57
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Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
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During a break in an NBA basketball game on TV, Martin left his father's fiance's home in the gated community of Twin Lakes to walk to a nearby 7-Eleven convenience store to buy some Skittles. While returning to the house, Trayvon was seen by George Zimmerman,[48] who called the Sanford Police Department non-emergency number.
According to phone records provided by T-Mobile,[49] Martin was speaking on a cell phone at the time of the incident. Martin's girlfriend came forward, identifying herself as the other person in that conversation; she was interviewed by an attorney, who has made a statement, and her parents have requested her anonymity. The girl said that Martin expressed concern about a strange man following him, and she advised him to run. She says she heard Martin say "What are you following me for?" followed by a man's voice responding "What are you doing here?" She said that she heard the sound of pushing and that Martin's headset suddenly went silent, leading her to believe that he had been knocked down. She attempted to call him back immediately, but was unable to reach him.[50]
Zimmerman police call
Zimmerman phoned the Sanford Police Department police at the non-emergency number at approximately 7:00 p.m., February 26, 2012.[51] to report Martin's suspicious behavior, which he described as "just walking around looking about" in the rain.[52] The police dispatcher tape recorded him saying, "This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something." He further stated that the person he was observing had his hand in his waistband, was holding something in his other hand, and was walking around slowly in the rain looking at houses.[53]
The dispatcher recommended that he not take any action, and informed him that police were on the way. Zimmerman reported that Martin had started running. The dispatcher asked him if he was following Martin and he affirmed that he was. The dispatcher informed him that this was not necessary, saying "We don't need you to do that." [54] Zimmerman affirmed "OK" and made arrangements to meet with police when they arrived.
A portion of what Zimmerman said in the call to police is disputed. Some have suggested the disputed words were "******* coons", an ethnic slur used against black people, while others suggest it was "clueless", "course", or "punks".[55] Joe Oliver, a Zimmerman family friend, said he heard the word "goon".[56]
None of this would have happened had Zimmerman let the police do their job.
rcawdor57
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None of this would have happened had Zimmerman let the police do their job.
rcawdor57
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Now that is funny.
HandyHamlet
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Zimmerman never should have exited his vehicle.
What was the justification for exiting the vehicle? He had already done his job by notifying police. They were on their way. He was told to stay put.
Innocent of instigation? Someone here give us ONE good reason for him to get out of that car.
rcawdor57
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Trayvon Martin was nicknamed "Slimm" and weighed 140 pounds. George Zimmerman weighs 250 pounds. Not quite a 100 pound difference.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
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Trayvon Martin
Born February 5, 1995
Died February 26, 2012 (aged 17)
Sanford, Florida, U.S.
Cause of death Single gunshot to the chest
Nationality American
Other names Nickname: Slimm
Ethnicity African American
Home town Miami, Florida
Height 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m)[1]
Weight 140 lb (64 kg)[1]
Parents Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin
George Zimmerman
Born George Michael Zimmerman[2]
October 5, 1983 (age 28)
Virginia[3]
Nationality American
Ethnicity white father
Peruvian mother[4][5]
Home town Sanford, Florida, U.S.
Height 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m)[6][7]
Weight 250 lb (110 kg)[6]
Religion Roman Catholic[4]
Parents Gladys C. and Robert J. Zimmerman, Sr.[4]
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How did he stop them from doing their job?
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Heh he heh - did it for them.
rcawdor57
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Exactly. According to one report by Zimmerman he got out of his truck to read the street signs. Wow...a neighborhood watch captain that doesn't know what street he is on in his own neighborhood.
Link: http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/03/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martins-killer.html
Snip: According to Zimmerman, he got out of his car to read a street sign and Martin, who was carrying a bag of Skittles and an ice tea, attacked him from behind; which, according to Zimmerman's own words, is a blatant lie.
Link:http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239
Confrontation: "Zimmerman shot Martin dead the night of Feb. 26 after following him for several minutes. Zimmerman told police Martin looked suspicious because he was wearing a hoodie, and when he confronted him the two fought -- ultimately resulting in a single bullet in Martin's chest."
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You win!
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rcawdor57
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Like Herr said...he didn't stop them...he did it for them.
Answer the question: Would any of this have happened had Zimmerman not followed Martin, gotten out of his truck and confronted him?
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Where does the 140 pound weight come from?
The police report lists Traymon Martin's height and weight as 6 foot and 160 pounds. That is the initial report, and is almost certainly an estimate, because Trayvon had no ID on him.
It is not a bad estimate, as we now know that Trayvon was 6 foot 3 inches.
I am speculating, but I suspect the 140 pound weight is from an earlier time, like most of his pictures. We will get the actual weight from the autopsy reports, but my guess is that it will come out to about 180, which is a very slim 6 foot 3 inch person.
The police report lists Traymon Martin's height and weight as 6 foot and 160 pounds. That is the initial report, and is almost certainly an estimate, because Trayvon had no ID on him.
It is not a bad estimate, as we now know that Trayvon was 6 foot 3 inches.
I am speculating, but I suspect the 140 pound weight is from an earlier time, like most of his pictures. We will get the actual weight from the autopsy reports, but my guess is that it will come out to about 180, which is a very slim 6 foot 3 inch person.