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    Im new, and the phone is acting stupid..

    I was trying tho use the search function but gave up on it, due to either the phone or its operator bring to brain dead this morning...I just bought a Smith & Wesson M&P .45, and am I correct in reading that you may carry where in the state, as long as its not posted not too?

    Granted place of worship, court house,and etc. are a giving. I just did not to be ok in say Suffolk, the head too say, Chesapeake to do business and get my butt busted from just getting out of the car.

    Thanks guys for the feed back, and answering a rookies questions.

    Ive been checking out the ocing in Hampton roads thread, and it has my spirits up,I just suck at reading the law on the books.
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    Welcome to the site!
    I can't even see the letters on my phone and the search function here is possessed, so don't bother.

    Yes, except for places forbidden by statute or the owner of private property (a few exceptions like College buildings under the Va Admin. Code) you can carry where you please!

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    OC is generally legal anywhere CC is - just no CHP required.

    See list of restricted/not legal places in the link following. Look to the bottom of the page.
    http://www.vcdl.org/static/ccw.html

    Suggest you attend one of the meet n' greets in your area. You'll pick up more good advice and pleasant conversation over good food than you will in a week of reading. Nevertheless do recommend that your read, study and get to know the applicable laws.

    Also sign up for the free Va-Alerts and keep up with everything in and around VA, including changes in the laws.
    http://www.vcdl.org/static/va-alert.html
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    Thanks a bunch guys! I'll be joining the VCDL very soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    Thanks a bunch guys! I'll be joining the VCDL very soon.

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    That's great to hear

    We'll keep the light on for you.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    Thanks a bunch guys! I'll be joining the VCDL very soon.

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    They have been the best IMO source of information for state laws and fighting for rights for Virginians. Also don't forget a voice recorder!

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    Good summary flier in the sticky thread here too:

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...n-Cards-STICKY

    TFred

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    Welcome to the forum, mpguy!

    Did you give yourself that screen name because of your affinity for your S&W M&P .45ACP pistol?

    I really dig the Taurus Millennium Pro line of pistols, hence my screen name of MilProGuy!

    I just acquired my third one last Friday (a MilPro PT145 .45ACP)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    Granted place of worship, court house,and etc. are a giving.
    A Given? You can carry in places of worship.
    Carry On.

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    Here's a link to an App that I use, it has a listing for each state and what their gun laws are. They had a problem with one of their developers and had to switch to a new one and have not got the "Open Carry" laws or lack of caught up yet, but they will get there. They support both both iPhone and Droids.

    http://www.mylegalheat.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed View Post
    A Given? You can carry in places of worship.
    Must have Good reason unless I misunderstood what I read. I know to protect myself would be more than enough for most but didn't think it be worth pushing the issue. May give it a try though.

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    Yes that's how I got name. Lol. Its the full size model, figured if I was going to spend the money, I'd get the biggest I felt comfortable carrying.

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    Suggest you read the Attorney General's opinion from April 2011 on "good and sufficient reason."

    http://www.oag.state.va.us/Opinions%...043%20cole.pdf

    An AG's opinion is not the same as law, but it goes a long way toward convincing people (such as LEOs, Commonwealth's Attorneys and Magistrates) that the law should be interpreted in the same way he sees it. As always you could run into someone with a chip on their shoulder who is going to do what they want, even if they know they won't prevail in the end. (Assuming you have the money, stamina and courage to fight it long enough to get there...)

    I believe AG Cuccinelli described his opinions as being his best estimate of how the Supreme Court of Virginia would rule on the issue, if they got it right. Or something like that.

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    In church is one of the few places I CC, so under normal circumstances no one is going to see it.

    If they do see it, it is because I had "good and sufficient cause" - the circumstance provides justification.
    The possibility is always there - gun free zones are target rich - no appointment required.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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