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    Conspiracy Nutbars can rest easy now, Hutaree yahoos acquitted..

    A good hollywood comedy script-writer would have been hard-pressed to come up with a more obsurd case..
    Said it before, I'll say it again- it was -yet another- attempt by Obama/Holder to prop something up for themselves on "hey, look how tough we are on man-made disasters, especially domestic ones".. but, since they couldnt be bothered to properly utilize investigative and intelligence assets on catching the multitude of REAL terror threats operating within our borders, they had to frame these silly yokels.

    Silly bastards were something of a laughing stock, even amongst the Other Michigan whackaloon militias. They'd have been hard-pressed to organize anything more complex than a yard sale without help from Federal "informants' ...

    "DETROIT – A federal judge Tuesday acquitted seven Hutaree members of all conspiracy charges, concluding the government didn't have enough evidence that the group plotted a violent revolt that included killing a police officer and bombing a funeral.

    U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts dismissed all charges against five of the defendants. Illegal weapons charges remain against two defendants: the supposed ringleader, David Stone Sr., and his son Joshua Stone.

    Defendants acquitted of all charges are Tina Stone, 46, and David Stone Jr., 22, both of Adrian, Mich.; Michael Meeks, 42, of Manchester, Mich; Thomas Piatek, 48, of Whiting, Ind.; and Kristopher Sickles, 29, of Sandusky, Ohio.

    "We're just grateful to Judge Roberts for having the courage to do the right thing. … Very few judges have that kind of courage," said lawyer Michael Rataj, who is representing Tina Stone.

    "There was no case. There was no conspiracy," Rataj said, further claiming the case was the result of overzealous federal agents.

    In the 28-page decision, Roberts wrote: "The evidence is not sufficient for a rational factfinder to find that defendants came to a concrete agreement to forcibly oppose the authority of the government of the United States as charged in the indictment."

    She said prosecutors shifted positions since the defendants were indicted; the indictment charges a specific plan to overthrow the United States government.

    Prosecutors now argue that the group had a general plan to engage in violence to provoke a response from law enforcement, she said.

    "The prosecution is not free to roam at large — to shift its theory of criminality so as to take advantage of each passing vicissitude of the trial," Roberts said. "If the government now admits that the plan alleged in Count 1 of the indictment (seditious conspiracy) did not exist, then defendants must be acquitted."

    Gina Balaya, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's office, said the prosecutor's office is going to withhold any comment until the end of the trial.

    In court documents filed last week, prosecutors defended the charges, saying they had proof that a violent plan was in the works and that the government stopped it before it took effect.

    "That there was no specific date, place, or target for this conflict — or that it was not certain whether the Hutaree intended to initiate the conflict or simply to engage in it once initiated by other forces is of no moment," Assistant U.S. Attorneys Sheldon Light and Christopher Graveline wrote. "The evidence supports the conclusion that there was a plan, an agreement, among these defendants and others to join in opposing by force the government of the United States when the time came."

    Tuesday's acquittals come days after the government rested its case with videos of bomb explosions.

    Those acquitted could have faced up to life in prison if convicted. "

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    There is no law against being a fat, stupid, camo-wearing armchair ninja in the USA. There is also no law against being an a$$hat, an idiot, or a dip$#!+.

    However, there ARE laws against entrapment, and against federal agents intentionally encouraging citizens to break the law to fabricate a case that doesn't already exist just because they don't like a person or a group that person belongs to.

    The REAL criminals in this case are the Fed agent provocateurs who fabricated their entire series of charges against this group, and provoked them to break the law in the first place through enticement, prodding, goading and other pressure tactics.

    The simple fact is that almost EVERY single "domestic terrorist organization" in the USA is either under the DIRECT control of the FBI, BATFE or DHS, or is a fabrication of their agent provcateurs.

    If the FBI decided tomorrow that the Boy Scouts were "dangerous", you would see scoutmasters all over the nation being branded as "domestic terrorist cell leaders" and Scout Troops being labeled as "domestic terror cells", and ALL the "evidence" provided to back these claims up would be fabricated by FBI's agent provocateurs.

    Just like Hutaree. And Waco. And Oklahoma City. And the WTC bombing in 1993...

    "Old Glory" was replaced by a HUGE "false flag" decades ago, folks. WTFU...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

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    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."

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