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    Cabelas and Gun Safety

    Last night I was at Cabelas, and of course took a trip to the gun counter. I don't know if I'll be back there, especially to purchase a firearm. (I've bought 3 from them). The employee working at the counter was showing a [very sketchy looking kid] how to unload, reload, and properly hold the Glock he wanted to buy. To my surprise, he didn't aim it at the empty wall behind him, but right at me! I asked him not to do that, and he responded in a very "stand offish" way and said that he checked the gun to make sure it was unloaded, so it was ok and there was nothing to worry about. I told him that one of the most basic rules of firearm safety is to NEVER point the gun at anything you don't wish to kill, even if it's unloaded. Unfortunately, this isn't the first time I've seen employees and customers alike aiming guns at each other. How hard would it be to slip a loaded magazine into one of the guns once it's across the counter and in your hands? Not very. Anyone else had a similar experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    Anyone else had a similar experience?
    What was he loading and reloading with?

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...i-Auto-Handgun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    What was he loading and reloading with?

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...i-Auto-Handgun

    I meant unloading and reloading the gun itself, with an empty magazine. Thank you for forwarding that, because I use snap caps in both of my Glocks.
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    Makes me wonder what Cabela's policies are regarding situations like that.

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    Same here. I'll call and ask once I'm out of work later. I really should have asked for the store manager, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    Last night I was at Cabelas...he didn't aim it at the empty wall behind him, but right at me! I asked him not to do that, and he responded in a very "stand offish" way and said that he checked the gun to make sure it was unloaded, so it was ok and there was nothing to worry about.
    That's a totally unacceptable action and reply on the part of the employee. Is he CRAZY?

    I appreciate your calm handling of the incident. But, really, you probably under-reacted. The employee is a goof with a gun.

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    Aside from being too dumb to be allowed to continue in that position, the employee just committed an action that is a felony in some states. You need to involve the store manager AND district manager.

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    Isn't aiming a gun at someone " using deadly force", I would have knock his teeth out, then asked if he understood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amaixner View Post
    Aside from being too dumb to be allowed to continue in that position, the employee just committed an action that is a felony in some states. You need to involve the store manager AND district manager.
    There may very well be video recordings from security cameras available to prove the OP's complaint.
    That would be quite useful. MainlyGlock might be able to get some compensation for his, uhm, discomfort caused by a lunatic employee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankT View Post
    There may very well be video recordings from security cameras available to prove the OP's complaint.
    That would be quite useful. MainlyGlock might be able to get some compensation for his, uhm, discomfort caused by a lunatic employee.
    This is true! When I call I'll inquire about that. Unless they go and mysteriously vanish.

    If I could, the only thing I would have that employee do is take an NRA basic pistol course. Clearly he has not, or wouldn't be doing things like that. If I was running a store that sold guns, I'd make it a friggin requirement before handling them.
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    File a formal complait with management STAT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    This is true! When I call I'll inquire about that. Unless they go and mysteriously vanish.

    If I could, the only thing I would have that employee do is take an NRA basic pistol course. Clearly he has not, or wouldn't be doing things like that. If I was running a store that sold guns, I'd make it a friggin requirement before handling them.
    Almost true. I've seen dozens of people who have taken the basic pistol course and who still have terrible habits.

    Adult education rules of thumb include "seven times in seven ways" and "learn, then teach" -- both of which help ingrain things that are learned. But unless one practices - correctly - what one learns, the risk of the "learning" not really setting in is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sraacke View Post
    File a formal complait with management STAT.

    Sounds like a good idea. I'll go back tomorrow to do so. Manager was not present when I called today. I wonder if the surveillance video is available under the Freedom of Information Act? Or if I am able to obtain it any other way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tess View Post
    Almost true. I've seen dozens of people who have taken the basic pistol course and who still have terrible habits.

    Adult education rules of thumb include "seven times in seven ways" and "learn, then teach" -- both of which help ingrain things that are learned. But unless one practices - correctly - what one learns, the risk of the "learning" not really setting in is great.

    This is true. Makes me a bit nervous to think about, actually. If you can't safely handle a firearm, you should not be allowed to use or carry one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    If you can't safely handle a firearm, you should not be allowed to use or carry one.
    Which part of "shall not be infringed" confuses you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    Which part of "shall not be infringed" confuses you?
    None. What part of I'm allowed to express my opinion confuses you?
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    The principals that led you to form that rather base opinion, so contrary to the principals espoused here on OPEN CARRY dot.org.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    The principals that led you to form that rather base opinion.
    It's simple. I don't trust people who are unable to safely handle a gun, whether it's unloaded or not. They put themselves, and others in jeopardy because of their ignorance. I suppose I [wrongly] held the employees who spend their workdays around guns to a higher standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    If you can't safely handle a firearm, you should not be allowed to use or carry one.
    Ahh, an eager petty tyrant. Oh, and a hoplon-phobic, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    Ahh, an eager petty tyrant. Oh, and a hoplon-phobic, too.
    I see that you've resorted to name calling instead of trying to disprove me. That's silly, and also the remark about me being afraid of guns is baseless, and simply untrue. Why would someone who is afraid of guns own 9 of them, and carry one every day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    None. What part of I'm allowed to express my opinion confuses you?
    You used the word "allowed" - which to some minds means government intervention. That infuriates some people. After years on this site, I've simply learned to let it go; the contest is nowhere near even with some ...

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    "How hard would it be to slip a loaded magazine..."

    How hard would it be to slap the living thunder outta someone for pointing a weapon at me?


    Fixed it for you. :-)



    Seriously, follow up with a written complaint to Cabela's...this is unacceptable behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    It's simple. I don't trust people who are unable to safely handle a gun, whether it's unloaded or not. They put themselves, and others in jeopardy because of their ignorance. I suppose I [wrongly] held the employees who spend their workdays around guns to a higher standard.
    Exactly. Where does one draw the line? Yes, there's the "right" for everyone to posses, etc.
    THEN, there's the common-sense of letting some dufus do so, without at least trying to correct their foolishness.
    Some potential Darwin Awardee handling firearms -in an un-safe manner -is as much a threat to you and I, as any intentional, criminal threat.
    There IS such a thing as taking a "right" a wee bit too literally, and to the detriment of our own well-being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4l View Post
    There IS such a thing as taking a "right" a wee bit too literally, and to the detriment of our own well-being.
    That's the cost and the duty of living with out Constitution and Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights. Same as the First Amendment implies the duty to tolerate stupid and offensive speech/opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess View Post
    You used the word "allowed" - which to some minds means government intervention. That infuriates some people. After years on this site, I've simply learned to let it go; the contest is nowhere near even with some ...
    Apparently you haven't "learned to let it go", or you wouldn't be making such a BFD out of his post. Pax...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    That's the cost and the duty of living with out Constitution and Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights. Same as the First Amendment implies the duty to tolerate stupid and offensive speech/opinions.
    Well hey, at least we agree that the others opinion is stupid. I think it's moronic to put guns in the hands of untrained people like you suggested, and you think it's offensive that I'd prefer not to. Good news is, we all have our opinions and you can either respectfully disagree, or just keep quiet.
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