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    Uncertified ‘top Philly cop’ breaking gun laws?

    Reprinted with permission of David Codrea, Gun Rights Examiner.

    “He carries a gun, he displays a badge, he wears a uniform, but Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey is not a certified police officer, technically speaking, and shouldn't be armed, badged and uniformed,” Stu Bykofsky reported last month on Philly.com.


    Dismissing a violation of Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes as “a loveably Philly mishmash,” Bykofsky seems unconcerned that hapless non-police gun owners are mashed most unlovingly in the City of Brotherly Love. (Warning: Vile language on the part of the "public servants" who swore an oath to support the Constitution, but instead decided it appropriate to threaten the life of a citizen while ordering him to “Shut the **** up” and calling him foul names.)

    Bykofsky also seems fine with the hypocrisy of an official who testified in front of Congress against the right of the people to bear arms carrying a gun himself—even though he is evidently legally unqualified.


    Additionally, unless Ramsey has the proper license in “a city of the first class” (i.e., Philadelphia), carrying a firearm on his person or in his vehicle, or on public streets or property, he would appear to be breaking the law up to the level of multiple felonies—every day.
    Without being certified, is it customary for LEOs to get licensed like “ordinary” people? Is it likely someone who admits his predecessors weren’t certified, so he put it off himself, would take that extra step?


    Would it be dismissed as “irony” if he were not one of the exalted “Only Ones,” treating gun laws as they apply to himself “with a mischievous laugh”?


    Why don’t we ask Mark Fiorino?
    Oh, wait: “Authorized Journalist” Stu Bykofsky already weighed in on that, and he failed to see the irony.
    Uncertified Commissioner Ramsey didn’t much like it, either


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    Note: This is NOT an invitation to LEO bashing.

    It is intended as an invitation to discuss the facts as to whether or not he is acting legally and how the general attitude may impact LAC while OCing. Leave insulting or degrading remarks out please.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    A rerun of Chief Willie Williams in Los Angelas, 1992 He could not qualify

    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Note: This is NOT an invitation to LEO bashing.

    It is intended as an invitation to discuss the facts as to whether or not he is acting legally and how the general attitude may impact LAC while OCing. Leave insulting or degrading remarks out please.
    Chief Willie Williams failed qualification tests to carry as a police officer twice. Then he was issued an extremely rare (for Los Angeles) CCW permit. Those of the elite consider themselves above the law. That was in 1992.

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    Charles Ramsey has a long and illustrious career as an LE Administrator with utter disregard for the Constitution, Rule of Law, and Fundamental Human Rights, and he should be WEARING handcuffs on his wrists, not his belt.

    Let us not forget exactly WHO Charles Ramsey is and from WHERE he comes.

    Before he was Philly's "top cop", he was the Chief of Police in Washington DC, and was forced to resign in disgrace after an epidemic of corruption and Civil Rights lawsuits involving DC Metro PD.

    And to remind people how he got the job in Philly, this disgraced "officer" did NOT pursue the position. Philly Mayor Charles Nutter RECRUITED him to come to Philly less than a year after his DC resignation and run their police program. I guess Nutter recognized Ramsey's "stellar" qualifications, and realized he was a perfect match to the way Philly approaches police work.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Ramsey

    Not "bashing", just sayin'...
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    This is a prime example of why I am not a big fan of Philadelphia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badey View Post
    This is a prime example of why I am not a big fan of Philadelphia.
    I was just in their airport & wanted to smoke my e-cigs ... cop said there is no law against them but he would not allow it. Typical cop: think they are judge dredd.
    Last edited by davidmcbeth; 04-09-2012 at 12:18 AM.

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    The current police chief of Cincinnati, James Craig, was reported to be in the same situation as of about a month ago. He wanted the state to grant him some sort of waiver, which to the best of my knowledge has never been done before. Haven't been able to find a more recent update.

    But it seems to be not so uncommon when a city hires in an outsider to be the new police boss.

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