Sometime over the last forty years I must have missed the class where instructions were given on how to clear a firearm in a motor vehicle. I've been in several situations as an EMS provider where that was necessary due to a traffic crash. Not once was the firearm cleared inside a motor vehicle. I look at a motor vehicle as being many hazards. The last thing that I would want to do is to attempt to clear a firearm inside of a motor vehicle or pointing the firearm in the direction of a motor vehicle or any type of structure.
Perhaps one of our worthy firearm instructors could offer a reduced price firearm safety class too.
Accidents...In fact I make a living from people being this way...
Me too! Funny, a few years ago the super secret squirrel agency that makes the official medical codes for injury and disease decided that MVAs (Motor Vehicle Accidents) were to be reclassified as MVCs (Motor Vehicle Collisions).
More funny: I wonder what would be the unintended consequences of having a law against handling a firearm or removing it from it's holster in public (with certain exemptions like self defense, at police order, etc.)? Certainly, some laws and rules would need to be changed, or a lot more people would be going about with unloaded guns.
No I never said anything about anyone not owning a gun. No matter what the device is you need training or just good old experience to become good with it.
Since she was going to a range might it be safe to assume that she was trying to become more expierenced with the weapon? Should she be punished for making every effort to follow the law to the letter?
I have seen weapons discharge without ever pulling the trigger so yes accidents do happen. It's not due to negligence or lack of expierence or familiarity. And it's not like she had the intention of blowing a hole in her own van. Or to harm herself or anyone else. Tell her not to do it again. Hell make her take a court ordered weapons safety class. But don't charge her with a crime
Before the laws changed I had to unload often before going on school grounds then chamber and reload when off grounds afterwards. Now about the only time I have to do the process is IRONICALLY going into gun shows. I choose to unload in the car rather than going unarmed from my house to the gun show. I suppose it may be safer to unchamber a round at home and simply remove the magazine at the gun show but then you get into the argument that an unloaded/chambered gun is about as effective as a hammer if your arm isn't free to rack the slide.
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I accept that her problem is my problem - as she is harmed, so am I. I will not let her stand alone.
No man (or woman) is an island, entire of itself.
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LOL indeed.Wifey doesn't get on me too much. LOL.
I would be curious to learn if the reason you were clearing the firearm was that the store policy required it. I have a pet pieve that any place requires anyone to unload a gun before bringing it into a store. The more you handle/cycle a gun the more opportunity for something to go wrong. If it was left properly holstered this AD/ND never would have happened. On the other hand if the gun was being brought in for maintenance, to sell, or trying on holsters, clearing it would have been propper etiquette.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you "Colonial Shooting Academy," where their policy as it was explained to me is that all firearms, including those being carried concealed, must be unloaded before being brought into the shop. So as far as I can tell this means, quite literally, that one is offered a choice: be known to be carrying valuables in the parking lot which you are also known to not be able to defend, OR risk a clearing incident inside the vestibule of the shop or further inside the shop in their "clearing area," OR not go to the place at all. Requests for written clarification of this policy and a specific detailed entry procedure have been sought to no avail.
When one is walking across the parking lot of the place with a bag, it's fairly obvious what one is carrying, isn't it?
If an accidental discharge is likely to result in a criminal charge, then the choice is being made for us.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you "Colonial Shooting Academy," where their policy as it was explained to me is that all firearms, including those being carried concealed, must be unloaded before being brought into the shop. So as far as I can tell this means, quite literally, that one is offered a choice: be known to be carrying valuables in the parking lot which you are also known to not be able to defend, OR risk a clearing incident inside the vestibule of the shop or further inside the shop in their "clearing area," OR not go to the place at all. Requests for written clarification of this policy and a specific detailed entry procedure have been sought to no avail.
When one is walking across the parking lot of the place with a bag, it's fairly obvious what one is carrying, isn't it?
If an accidental discharge is likely to result in a criminal charge, then the choice is being made for us.
I would be curious to learn if the reason you were clearing the firearm was that the store policy required it. I have a pet pieve that any place requires anyone to unload a gun before bringing it into a store. The more you handle/cycle a gun the more opportunity for something to go wrong. If it was left properly holstered this AD/ND never would have happened. On the other hand if the gun was being brought in for maintenance, to sell, or trying on holsters, clearing it would have been propper etiquette.