Fishing Posts?

()pen(arry · Apr 11, 2012

Call it paranoia, if you like, but sometimes when I see these new members asking for legal information on carrying, especially in posts that ask, "I know <insert patently false information>, but can I <insert hyper-specific, unusual action>?", I find myself wondering how many, if any, of these people are fishing for bad legal advice. I fully appreciate that people new to the topic will come here looking for information, often harboring inaccurate information when they arrive, and I'm delighted to help them become educated. But...

Dunno.

Anyone else ever get that feeling?

DrakeZ07 · Apr 11, 2012

Yes. On more than one occasion, both online, and offline when someone approaches me in too-well-dressed outfit asking about OC, etc. That's when you just tell them to talk to a Gun rights lawyer, turn around, and walk away.

09jisaac · Apr 11, 2012

If you are talking about that post that ask if OP could brandish or shoot "thugs" for playing basketball in the streets, that seemed like a perfectly legit question to me.

()pen(arry · Apr 11, 2012

09jisaac said:
If you are talking about that post that ask if OP could brandish or shoot "thugs" for playing basketball in the streets, that seemed like a perfectly legit question to me.

I am not aware of that thread, so no, I'm not.

09jisaac · Apr 11, 2012

()pen(arry said:
I am not aware of that thread, so no, I'm not.

I was mistaken, it was just looking for laws on loitering.

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?99293-Loitering-in-Phenix-City&highlight=basketball

I was looking for it before I posted.

But these are the type of post that you refer to? Ones that are riddled it racism or other personal bias asking for information that isn't specific to OC?

()pen(arry · Apr 11, 2012

09jisaac said:
But these are the type of post that you refer to? Ones that are riddled it racism or other personal bias asking for information that isn't specific to OC?

I'm referring to the posts I described: posts asking legal questions, particularly those that claim knowledge of false information. Sometimes when I read them I just get the feeling that someone is trying to bait us into giving bad legal advice.

09jisaac · Apr 11, 2012

My mistake, I thought you were talking about post fishing as a whole, not highly specific ones that fight perfectly into your template.

ManInBlack · Apr 11, 2012

These are the types of new poster threads that bug me the most:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...oday-Question-about-Open-Carry-Please-respond

Wherein the OP has made zero attempt to read the statutes, state police/attorney general FAQ's, or even some of the distilled information offered on this website, before asking "can I like, open carry a gun in X state?"

These are the people who will get themselves into trouble and make us all look bad, especially when the media starts reporting that they were a "regular" poster on OCDO...

09jisaac · Apr 11, 2012

Yea, that bothered me too. On the Kentucky forum at one time we had three threads of people asking if they can OC between the ages 18-21 on the front page of threads. And they weren't entitled anything cryptic, they were something along the lines of "minimum age to OC" or "OC under 21" something like that.

ejmartin79 · Apr 11, 2012

Well I'm sure your talking about my post. I tried to just ask questions and not state untrue laws. Yes I'm a new member and I'm not asking you to trust me, but I did put basic info on my homepage. I just have never open carried and wondered mostly about how guys loaded after parking. If asking questions hoping for answers is fishing, then I guess I'm fishing. I understand everything here is opinion and if I said something incorrect please correct me, i just want some good info From fellow gun guys.

Glock9mmOldStyle · Apr 11, 2012

ejmartin79 said:
Well I'm sure your talking about my post. I tried to just ask questions and not state untrue laws. Yes I'm a new member and I'm not asking you to trust me, but I did put basic info on my homepage. I just have never open carried and wondered mostly about how guys loaded after parking. If asking questions hoping for answers is fishing, then I guess I'm fishing. I understand everything here is opinion and if I said something incorrect please correct me, i just want some good info From fellow gun guys.

HI! Try posting in the MI forum page. We do have a resident troll Pat, but just ignore him as the admins of this site do. I think if you read the stickies at the top of the page first most of your questions can be answered. If you still have questions start a new thread or PM me and I will help you out to the best of my ability.

PS there is an OC dinner coming up in a week in your area, these are always a good place to pick up tips and see how others are legally OCing in MI

Herr Heckler Koch · Apr 11, 2012

ejmartin79 said:
I understand everything here is opinion and if I said something incorrect please correct me, i just want some good info From fellow gun guys.

One informant says BLACK and the other says WHITE, who is right is for you to decide by reading the citations required by OCDO Rule (5).

See, here you have an old hand saying "listen to me and don't listen to him the troll" but no one is citing anything but bald opinion.

Glock9mmOldStyle · Apr 11, 2012

Herr Heckler Koch said:
One informant says BLACK and the other says WHITE, who is right is for you to decide by reading the citations required by OCDO Rule (5).

See, here you have an old hand saying "listen to me and don't listen to him the troll" but no one is citing anything but bald opinion.

I sent him to the stickies, which are full of legal citations... you see many black pots mr. Kettle,? Talk about opinion and baseless at that....flame away

()pen(arry · Apr 11, 2012

ejmartin79 said:
Well I'm sure your talking about my post. I tried to just ask questions and not state untrue laws. Yes I'm a new member and I'm not asking you to trust me, but I did put basic info on my homepage. I just have never open carried and wondered mostly about how guys loaded after parking. If asking questions hoping for answers is fishing, then I guess I'm fishing. I understand everything here is opinion and if I said something incorrect please correct me, i just want some good info From fellow gun guys.

Actually, I've never seen your name before, so no I didn't mean you, specifically

In the Texas forum, we get a number of them. Washington seems to get the occasional one too. I don't frequent any of the other states' forums.

()pen(arry · Aug 13, 2013

Anyone getting this vibe again, recently? Just saw one by an ostensible 18 year old wanting to know if he could buy an AR-15 at a gun show. Spidey senses......

davidmcbeth · Aug 13, 2013

()pen(arry said:
Anyone getting this vibe again, recently? Just saw one by an ostensible 18 year old wanting to know if he could buy an AR-15 at a gun show. Spidey senses......

Me thinks you are suggesting its the NSA or ATF trying to get a conviction of a person responding to such a post ... am I correct?

Keep the faith !

()pen(arry · Aug 13, 2013

davidmcbeth said:
Me thinks you are suggesting its the NSA or ATF trying to get a conviction of a person responding to such a post ... am I correct?

Keep the faith !

Occam's razor suggests a more mundane interpretation of my post. See if you can guess it!

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