Tourist beaten, stripped, and robbed in Baltimore, MD

After skimming the Drudgereport today, I came across this new story/video.

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=86&sid=2827048

I am completely appalled at the responses of citizens on the street, as well as the LEO spokesperson. She said something along the lines of the victim having the right to leave the situation unharmed (not the fact that it was public property; he had the right to BE THERE as well) and that he shouldn't have been "relieved of his property".

One man responds with: Where were the police?
A lady says: It's suprising...but [Baltimore is] dangerous
And the one that makes me the most angry: It's awful....but you shouldn't be out late at night like that wondering around the streets


Is it just me, or are they missing all that it means to be free and prosperous U.S. citizens who have an unalienable right to pursue happiness? They act like it's somehow the victim's fault...and that the police should have been there and fixed these magical problems of assault and battery. Like LEO are some sort of physicians for a mindless plague in our society.

This way of Baltimore thinking completely blows me away. These people feel no right to self defense of limb or property...let alone the right to peacefully occupy public space. Apparently it's my fault if I walk down a sidewalk I pay for with my taxpayer dollars if it's early in the morning and I am assaulted. Hooligans don't choose to assault me, it's simply due to my arrogance of occupying public space when I please (also known as individual pursuit of happiness?).

Please, share your thoughts on how brainwashed Maryland must be (or isn't) concerning crime, gun laws, and the purpose of Police.

Jake8x7

What a sad commentary on the condition of our society. Unfortunately, it's not limited to Maryland, it's become nationwide. Just one of the many reasons we carry, right?

If Obama had sons, would they look like that?

TechnoWeenie said:

If Obama had sons, would they look like that?

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I've never understood how this statement actually adds to the conversation. Why do people continue to post that on news website comments? Just curious...

Jake8x7

Unfortunately, MD is in fact populated by a majority of sheeple and broke-back slaves. The majority of the "citizens" in MD not only accept their serfdom, but revel in it, and hold the freedom of states like VA, WV and VT in disdain. Really. It's true...

The REAL reason why MD government refuses to allow it's law-abiding citizens is because many of our legislators know that if the People could defend themselves, Elected officials would be spending so much time attending the funerals of their thug-life relatives that they would never be able to attend legislative sessions...

it was the visitors fault for going to Maryland. if he had chosen a state with more liberty this thing probably would not have happened

Jake8x7 said:

I've never understood how this statement actually adds to the conversation. Why do people continue to post that on news website comments? Just curious...

Jake8x7

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Because Obama was dumb enough to say that 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon'.

So, if some random black 17 y/o looks like Obamas son, then any black guy must look like obamas son...

TechnoWeenie said:

Because Obama was dumb enough to say that 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon'.

So, if some random black 17 y/o looks like Obamas son, then any black guy must look like obamas son...

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Ah, thank you! I didn't know he said that.

Is everyone in Maryland really this delusional?

Jake8x7

TechnoWeenie said:

Because Obama was dumb enough to say that 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon'.

So, if some random black 17 y/o looks like Obamas son, then any black guy must look like obamas son...

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+1

But, the link is even more solid. Given the prez's inclinations to seize your property (money) for his pet socialist programs and oversight of a thieving government, that whole crowd must have been family to him. Does anybody really doubt that if you tried to prevent a fedgov agent from seizing your property or fought back, that you wouldn't end up like that tourist, or worse? Does anybody really doubt the prez's minions would take everything you own, making a pauper out of you by prosecuting you for standing up to their money-grabbing schemes or refusing to play along?

One of many reasons I moved away from Baltimore. It is very dangerous and no one thinks you should protect yourself. I was shot at way to many times for doing nothing more than walking down the street.

Gonna play the race card... bunch of blacks laugh with glee as they do this to a white person, but ZERO mention of race in regards to the crime... bunch of whites doing this to a black, no matter what their language was, would undoubtedly result in HATE CRIME charges.

Going out on a limb here...but here goes...

Blacks are one of the main reasons there is still racism in this country. Its actions like this that will continue to feed racisms deadly fire. The next time a black person wonders why there is still hatred towards them, they need to be told to look at their race. History proves that they are generally violent. Yes, white man enslaved them long ago, but we have tried to make it right. As long as Al Sharpton is still alive, there will be racism in this country. Where is he now? Where is he to condemme the actions of his fellow "african" americans. No where.

Tucker6900 said:

Going out on a limb here...but here goes...

Blacks are one of the main reasons there is still racism in this country. Its actions like this that will continue to feed racisms deadly fire. The next time a black person wonders why there is still hatred towards them, they need to be told to look at their race. History proves that they are generally violent. Yes, white man enslaved them long ago, but we have tried to make it right. As long as Al Sharpton is still alive, there will be racism in this country. Where is he now? Where is he to condemme the actions of his fellow "african" americans. No where.

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Bahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Every time I calm down and say, "hey Stanley, you are overreacting," someone comes along and proves I'm not...

Is this the point where I am supposed to get violent and cause the racism? If not then let me know. Don't wanna step out of turn...


Seriously though...

1) A victim of racism (regardless of the race of the victim) is never responsible for the racism. Racism exists in the mind of the racist regardless of the victim's actions. At best, the victim's actions merely justify the racist's beliefs.

2) History proves that blacks are generally violent? Nonsense. History proves that HUMANS are generally violent.

3) Why is Al Sharpton linked to ALL black people? I can't stand him. Did I sign some paper somewhere that stated I agreed that Sharpton speaks for me or something??? Contrary to popular belief, not all black people know each other, have the same views or act the same way.

4) Your biases are showing... Tuck them in.

Blacks commit crimes far out of proportion to population. There are about 12.5% blacks in the US committting about 85% of total crime. This number is fairly steady. As a former Baltimore City cop I can attest that there are some areas of the city where white people can't go alone w/o fear of being attacked day or night. This has been the case since the mid-late 1960's.

When Marylanders were forcibly disarmed past their doorways in 1972, crimes against persons increase as the savage element became free to predate and harrass with relative impunity. An armed society is truly a polite society.

For this reason... many Marylanders (especially women) carry handguns w/o permit and risk being victimized by their own state/local government because they cannot get a permit, much less carry Constitutionally. Visitors, tourists are especially at risk 'cause they don't know any better and don't know the area they may wander into. This is particualrly true of the Inner Harbor, Fells Point and Baltimore Street (the Block) peripheral areas at night
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Sonora Rebel said:

Blacks commit crimes far out of proportion to population. There are about 12.5% blacks in the US committting about 85% of total crime. This number is fairly steady. As a former Baltimore City cop I can attest that there are some areas of the city where white people can't go alone w/o fear of being attacked day or night. This has been the case since the mid-late 1960's.

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This nonsense again...

1) Blacks commit crimes far out of proportion to population.

-> Poverty stricken people commit crimes far out of proportion to population. Blacks costitute a larger portion of the poverty level population. The same stats you cite show similar rates among whites at the same poverty level.

2) The stats prove conviction rates. NOT the rate at which crimes are committed.

3) As a former Baltimore City cop

-> Baltimore cops are more corrupt than the LAPD... Enough said...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=baltimore+cops+corruption

4) This is a tired argument...

I think if there were truely a race epidemic, Mr. Sharpton as well as Mr. Jackson, and possibly others would no longer be with us anyways and would be at the eternal sleep if you catch my drift.


There will always be idiots out there to keep it alive on BOTH sides... they should be ignored ofcourse.


For the most part (maybe i"M just an idiot) I think racism on the whole is truely gone. People are more judged by their character by MOST people. (though I understand the point that many blacks are disadvantaged from the get go, but they don't have to glorify gangsta culture (obviously not all do))


In my neighborhood, the black people are the NICE/GOOD people... it's the whites that are the TRASH and MORONS. (except me lol)

Dreamer said:

The REAL reason why MD government refuses to allow it's law-abiding citizens is because many of our legislators know that if the People could defend themselves, Elected officials would be spending so much time attending the funerals of their thug-life relatives that they would never be able to attend legislative sessions...

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Dreamer, your implying that elected officials actually spend time doing productive work

Sonora Rebel said:

Blacks commit crimes far out of proportion to population. There are about 12.5% blacks in the US committting about 85% of total crime. This number is fairly steady. As a former Baltimore City cop I can attest that there are some areas of the city where white people can't go alone w/o fear of being attacked day or night. This has been the case since the mid-late 1960's.

When Marylanders were forcibly disarmed past their doorways in 1972, crimes against persons increase as the savage element became free to predate and harrass with relative impunity. An armed society is truly a polite society.

For this reason... many Marylanders (especially women) carry handguns w/o permit and risk being victimized by their own state/local government because they cannot get a permit, much less carry Constitutionally. Visitors, tourists are especially at risk 'cause they don't know any better and don't know the area they may wander into. This is particualrly true of the Inner Harbor, Fells Point and Baltimore Street (the Block) peripheral areas at night
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I lived in Baltimore City for my entire life. I am out in CO now on a temporary assignment). It's not half as bad as you make it out to be. The Inner Harbor, Fells Point, Canton, Federal Hill are safe places to go. The Block is probably the safest place to go. First off it's right next to the Police Headquarters and secondly the strip club owners are really good at policing themselves. The murders and other violent crimes are mainly located in West and East Baltimore and mostly one drug dealer killing another. If you stay away from the known drug areas you are fine.

I am not so sure this is a question of if he had been carrying or not it would have changed the outcome. The victim had been heavily drinking for 12 hours. I don't think anybody wants someone in that shape to be carrying a handgun much less trying to hit something with it.

I too lived in Baltimore much of my life. Don't tell me it is not that bad. Baltimore cops are some of the dirtiest in the country and to the former Bmore cop who posted in this thread, you can be mad all you want to be about my following statement. Baltimore cops are the biggest drug dealers and murders in the whole state. Don't get me started on black mail. This is fact. Oh and I'm white so get any and all assumptions about me out of your head cause I'm very sure they are wrong. I know for a fact not half of the drugs confiscated by Bmore cops actually makes it to evidence. Some of them are bringing the stuff in to the state themselves. Don't get me started on Baltimore. The cops alone are trash.

For those talking about Black and crime, I think some of you are missing the bigger picture.

(Excluding hate crimes) Blacks don't commit more crime than Whites because they're "evil" Blacks, it's because statistically they're poorer than the average White. The whole point is the primary function IS NOT race, it's wealth. Go into some of the states with high amounts of white meth addicts and you'll get the same problem that inner cities have: The poor are committing the crime (actual violent crime, not drug crimes...white people and black people use drugs at about the same rate).

I know it's a bit off topic, but I think both Blacks and Whites need to see the difference between Racists and those who function under code Yellow: I don't discriminate by race, I subconsciously discriminate by what appears to be your wealth status. I see a well dressed and groomed black man as much less of a threat than your average "ragged white beater wearing trailer trash uneducated hick" because he or she is much more likely to be poor. Does that mean I call you names or strip you of your liberties? No... I just give you an extra eye.

Jake8x7