We allow the anti-2A true-believers to get away with citing the statistical examples of carnage produced by violent criminals, while we barely utter a breath to make the case that this very record of carnage is the natural consequence of the very disarmament policies enacted into laws throughout our United States - laws that either prohibit carry altogether, or suppress the right to open carry.
I must come out of my comfortable little corner of my world, and register my grievances regarding the transgressions upon my right that have received only token redress by the SCOTUS, and little to none by other courts.
Think about it. It only took the SCOTUS 142 years to finally go on record in the McDonald v Chicago decision acknowledging that the 2A is actually applicable to state & local governments - despite the fact that it was the very intent of the 14A to incorporate that fact into federal law 142 years ago. Thank you so much SCOTUS. Now we must wait another 20 years for the crusted layers of infringements to be grudgingly peeled back.
Ted Nugent's somewhat audacious commentary although entertaining should not occupy center stage in the RTKBA discussion. The only thing that may appear a bit "weird" about open carry - is the rarity of reports of any person engaged in the practice actually finding it necessary to remove their weapon from its holster and bring it to bear in defense of person, or property due to the crime deterrent effect of their open carry condition.
Well, I found that gem of crazy uncle Ted's and then sat back a week to see what You guys think.
Here is my tarnished pennies worth.
Ted is now day's a truly decent man, but as a young man at the top of the rock world he was a sick puppy, he had a sex addiction often with under age women ( girls ) groupies who would flock to his entourage.
He got arrested for border line pedophilia yada yada yada ( look it up ) and so he was a punk, all be it a sober anti dope punk, but seriously back then he should have been gunned down in the parking lot of a rock concert by one of the fathers of the girls with a gun he now advocates as sacred > Daughters are more 'sacred' than Glocks !
My 2nd Amendment is for >>>>>>>> sex offenders <<<<<,> as well as hoodie punks on crack.
He doges the draft, avoids service, ( Jimmy Hendricks did not he was an 82 Air born jumper , a MUCH better guitarist and MUCH better lyricist musician )
Years & years go by, he looses his women in a car crash, he goes thru some soul searching because he really is deep inside he really is a decent guy, he just got caught up on his own cult of personality.
Ted finds himself looking into the mirror at a shallow empty meaningless hypocrite who serves no real purpose than to be good guitar player player as an extraordinary very animated one man circus act entertainer clown and he admits it to himself ( and God ) and has an awakening ( Christians call it a repentance - conversion ) he straitens up and fly's right and starts to use some of the personality gifts, quirks and endless stream of consciousness to
do something about the country he has lived off , fiddling his guitar and play with girls all the while the USA burns like Rome.
I don't think Ted can live with the punk he use to be, he is a very emotional person, and he can be made to explode in rage over illogical, and yet cry in sympathy for a wounded vet, and that is our funky uncle T
So now we have the older Uncle Ted, smart, ultra articulate, still rebellious & semi psychotically zealous, now with kids and now he sees the young rockers and his kids from a dad's perspective and starts to 'get it', he is now more refined but still kind of 'strange' yet harmless to anyone who sees that he is an old dude who wants to be real and be a real asset to the country that gave him the opportunities he took advantage of to the 10th power, and pay back the vets who literally sheltered him from harm with their bodies by the thousands in foreign countries so he could have play around and have the good life.
I dig the zany harmless Ted, I dig the debate speech Ted, but the emotional ego-testicle Ted is still a bit childish and unwise and so he shoots his foot like that DEA agent showing the school kids his Glock on YouTube.
So now days I think he is basically good and has a love of country and a want's to 'make it up' to the soldiers in his own way.
I tend to be positively polarized and root for there good in people over the dark side or parts of their character that is truly or was truly flawed.
I would bet that Ted in person without the silly cameras that he has trained on himself all the time, just alone one on one is a very mild & meek average good guy.
As for the "kooks" quote by Ted that I started this post off with , well, I disagree cause he is calling ME a kook and yet he does have a certain point and I'll tell you why he has a point > I have met 3 other open carriers and 2 out of 3 were KOOKS !!!
Seriously , one is a boneheaded very immature camera ***** who walks down the street with an AK47 and wants to be stopped so he can proclaim 2A Rights, and he acts like he has borderline personality disorder ( Kook ), thee other is a total anti social mean angry punk with an extreme inferiority complex ( Kook ).
The only level headed open carry guy in my part of Oregon that I have met that is 'normal" is WeThePeople ( his ID on this site ) who is my Marine / Law student buddy.
So in my experience I am batting 50/50 if I throw myself into the normal side, but then again if any of You have read my posts , hell I am considered a Kook by many of you guys , lol.
Admittedly my alien from outer space from the planet ding dong writing style is NOT the norm, but if You meet me in person , you would see that I am squared away , mild mannered and level headed. I think Ted is too , we just need to get him one on one and show him not all of us ( I mean you guys lol ) are not Kooks.
Finally , about Ted> If Obama can drive you insane then you must be sane !
You gotta be sane if Obamma drive you insane.
Last edited by SteveInAshand; 04-29-2012 at 08:05 PM.
Jimi Hendrix was in the 101st ABN, not the 82nd.
But, great read, overall. While Ted Nugent is certainly a prime mover, he's not always 100% correct nor will he even say things that people will agree with every time he speaks.
No ONE of us is a perfect supporter of all our rights or a perfect person. MY goal is to stand and support ANYONE when they are right, correct, and/or IN THE RIGHT AS LONG AS THEY ARE RIGHT. I don't care who they are. I will stand with ANYONE when they are right. If they are wrong or immoral... they can stand on their own IN THOSE AREAS.
RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
If one is not willing to stand for his rights, he doesn't have any Rights.
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2nd amendment says.... "...The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!"
When are we going to RETURN to the Constitution and God?
OCing does not disqualify you from being a weirdo.
Ted is a poor spokesman for the 2A? Maybe so, maybe not, it depends on the listener.
If you desire a different spokesman for the 2A then get yourself on TV/radio and take his place as a spokesman for the 2A.
i have often felt like i am a weirdo.
am i, just because i Open Carry?
Luke 22:36 ; 36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
"guns are like a Parachute, if you don't have one when you need it, you will not need one again"
i you call a CHP a CCW then you are really stupid. period.
fashion. I do know that in my just over two month stent of daily OC, I've yet to see anybody else around here doing it, so I imagine I'm viewed as a weirdo by some. I did see one guy OC in Walmart last Christmas season, and to be honest, I didn't feel he was a very good spokesperson for the 'cause' if you will. Very rough looking fella, with a big, bulky nylon holster flopping around on his hip. Looked like a weirdo to me...
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"Let your gun be your constant companion during your walks" ~Thomas Jefferson
My comment, as the other two rightly pointed out, was still largely sarcastic.
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Total ignorance: an Obama supporter's stock in trade
I may qualify for the OC weirdo label. Last year I attended an OC picnic in PA with a taxidermy coyote. Everyone there actually liked it, so I guess the whole group is weirdos. I had previously joked about doing such a thing, so I thought bringing it to fruition would be funny. Of course the organizer ( not me) had gotten the local paper to come by, and the reporter and photographer made a beeline for me when I took Mr Coyote out of the truck and plopped him on the table. I made it into the article, and then the followup anti carry editorial LOL "fashion police- ditch the holster". LOL, I guess I'm weird! I've shown this to non carry types and most think it really neat that I had the coyote with me. Marylanders too.
But perhaps this weirdness of mine is OK, I am an artist afterall. Just tell people you are an artist, and they will be like " ohhhh, cooool!" and all will be ok. LOL. Yep. I had some art students really excited when they came by my place due to an interest in taxidermy. The OC made their entire year I think. I even let one gal put on an unloaded gun in a holster so her friend could take a pic of her OCing. Oh yeah, I gave a bunch of spent brass out to them all for use in art projects. You see when I was their age I didn't know anyone who would give me any ( the one guy was a reloader), and I really wanted some so I could say F the establishment with my art. I ended up buying brass from Cabelas LOL. Anyway, I was giving back for what I couldn't get many years ago. Of course I asked where they were actually from, some from VA, I think WI or MI. VA LOL. Go back home and OC dammit! Or OC an orange squirt gun to class, that's a weird college you know, it would probably be allowed- freedom of expression is a big deal down there at MICA. You can even bring your dog to class.
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When you carry rifles, it is generally OC. I think you missed that point I was trying to make.
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He's pretty spot on here... Haters gonna hate, but at least he's not one of those hollywood types who love gun control.
Last edited by Medic1210; 05-03-2012 at 01:34 PM.
Uncle Ted also isn't telling you that he maintains a Michigan residence, meaning he has a MI CPL (and he's a reserve deputy in MI) so he is exempt from Concealed Pistol Free Zones. So he's definately amongst the privledge. I'm not knocking him for that because I'm LEOSA qualified as well; however, I support open carry and most importantly, I realize that open carry is the only way the average person in MI can carry due to pistol free zones.
There is nothing worse than someone who is exempt from carry restrictions who snubs his nose against other people who are forced to abide by those restrictions.
Open carry was the norm out west before the 1990's... Uncle Ted must have been too heavy into drugs back then to realize it.
But then again, consider the source, he also said he would love to join the Border Patrol and wishes if he was able to "mow down Mexicans as they run across the border."
I don't need to cite my sources for his comments about Mexicans. My office use to have a signed poster of him in the break room. When that was poster was given to a co-worker, that's when he was saying his rant about how he wished if he could join DHS and volunteer at the Mexican Border and that he wished he could shoot at people as they ran across the border.
As far as the drug use. I'm just going by how torn up his face looks. Unless he was left out in the sun for 3 decades. You don't look like that from womanizing.
That's just my observation.