CoDash
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Just sharing an encounter with 16 OCers vs Police in Kansas City.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQJ_FJ8zsQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQJ_FJ8zsQ
Congrats on a job well done by everybody except the cops.
stay safe.
Those LEOs were thinking about their careers, just a little. "Dispatch, send more cars, social services, supervisor, we've got several armed people eating dinner here with their kids!" "Supervisor to cop, call my cell ASAP."
I wonder who called 911, and how they felt seeing all that happen, and the LEOs leave the diners to their dinner.
You'd think by now every LEO in America would have been told to leave legal OCers alone once they see there's no trouble.
I'm reading the youtube comments now. Sounds like a lot of anonymous morons don't particularly like my son acting like a 3 year old boy. There was a reason we were at Steak and Shake and not Ruth Chris. It was an interesting night, but not too interesting. It was great how our waitress just kept on handing us food when the police where there, and she got a really nice tip that night.
I am curious, under what authority can they ask the manager to throw the OC-ers out? "Because I can." The same authority you have to ask the manager of an establishment to throw out any person/group you want to seen thrown out.
It seems like intimidation to use their uniform and position to try to sway a company to show preference to any specific clientele! Actually, it may be more than mere intimidation. Several possible crimes come tro mind. Violation of civil rights uinder color of law leads the list, of course. Conspiracy to defraud either the "innkeeper" or the customer - depending on if the folks walk out without paying or are made to leave before finishing their meal. Defamation of character, while usually a civil tort, can in certain circumstances be a criminal violation. Any ambulance-chasing tile crawler* should be able to gin up at least half a dozen more possibilities.
I hope a FOIA goes to their department and a letter at least asking for better training of their officers to FOLLOW the law!
I am curious, under what authority can they ask the manager to throw the OC-ers out? "Because I can." The same authority you have to ask the manager of an establishment to throw out any person/group you want to seen thrown out.
It seems like intimidation to use their uniform and position to try to sway a company to show preference to any specific clientele! Actually, it may be more than mere intimidation. Several possible crimes come tro mind. Violation of civil rights uinder color of law leads the list, of course. Conspiracy to defraud either the "innkeeper" or the customer - depending on if the folks walk out without paying or are made to leave before finishing their meal. Defamation of character, while usually a civil tort, can in certain circumstances be a criminal violation. Any ambulance-chasing tile crawler* should be able to gin up at least half a dozen more possibilities.
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If they were off duty they would have the same authority as I do but on duty police officers in uniform asking (or more likely telling/demanding) the manager to expel customers is different because they are insinuating the power of the state when they make the illegal request. I understand what you are saying but there is a difference. If I ask the owner to expel a customer it is a request. If the state tells the manager to expel a law abiding civil paying customer it is tyranny and the officer needs to be held accountable. Your second statement expounds upon my thoughts on what form of violation they have committed but I don't see anyone mentioning that they need to at least have a slap on the hand reprimand for suggesting that the manager should give them the boot when they have done nothing wrong.