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HB 2522 Passes in Senate
39 Yes
2 No
39 Yes
2 No
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This bill has been gutted, its useless.
Elaborate, please, for those of us who didn't follow all the changes?
Elaborate, please, for those of us who didn't follow all the changes?
That, and a summary of the bill as it was voted on, so we don't have to research it separately. If it was already in another thread, then this should have been added to that thread instead of its own.
Also, I count 49, including the "not voted." Was this a full Senate vote? Am I missing something?
HB2522 did in fact pass the Senate yesterday, however the bill was amended and removed almost all open carry.
Here is what the bill provides:
1) Adding ammunition to the parking lot exemption
2) Changing the notification from "first contact" to "first opportunity"
3) Reducing the penalty for failure to notify to $100
4) allowing OC without a permit on your own property
So I did some home work on this and I am not 100% sure about all this but it looks like house and senate got it passed. But then looks like some action has been going on like the billing being passed back and forth. I kind of don;t understand anything other then both house and Senate passed it.
Engrossed to House 04/25/2012 S
SA's received 04/25/2012 H
SA's rejected, conference requested, naming Conference Committee on Public Safety, Judiciary and Military Affairs 04/26/2012 H
Found this on http://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=hb2522
If anyone knows details please explain if you can. I would like to know what is going on. Almost looks like it past both places and then the SA's rejected it so not sure what that part means.
What I see is that HB2522 had its Senate amendments rejected today and is still sitting in the house. However, HB2522 is not a real Open Carry bill any more and we can forget about it.
However, SB1733, which as far as I can tell, is still a decent Open Carry bill did get passed by the House today. However, Russel filed an amendment to change one word in the bill. I don't know if this was an effort to continue clogging the system or if he thought it was an important change. Now, all that has to happen is for the engrossed bill to have its fourth reading in the Senate by the end of the session in late May and have a passing vote to go to the Governor's desk.
That is pretty much what Randy Bass's office told us about the status of SB1733 and it seems that the future of Open Carry just got much brighter unless I am missing something somewhere.
6. For lawful self-defense and self-protection or any other legitimate purpose in or on property that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by the person; or
7. For any legitimate purpose...
So, was SB1733 originally an OC bill only for your own property and now it has been amended to be OC anywhere?
Also, I already OC on my own property. What law forbids this? Or is this "own property" thing a way to exempt us from Fish and Game laws that require a hunting license and/or tags if you are carrying a weapon legal for taking game that is in season?
Title 21 Section 1272 said:TITLE 21 § 1272 UNLAWFUL CARRY
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry upon or about his or her person, or in a purse or other container belonging to the person, any pistol, revolver, shotgun or rifle whether loaded or unloaded or any dagger, bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade knife, spring-type knife, sword cane, knife having a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, blackjack, loaded cane, billy, hand chain, metal knuckles, or any other offensive weapon, whether such weapon be concealed or unconcealed, except this section shall not prohibit:
1. The proper use of guns and knives for hunting, fishing, educational or recreational purposes;
2. The carrying or use of weapons in a manner otherwise permitted by statute or authorized by the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act;
3. The carrying, possession and use of any weapon by a peace officer or other person authorized by law to carry a weapon in the performance of official duties and in compliance with the rules of the employing agency;
4. The carrying or use of weapons in a courthouse by a district judge, associate district judge or special district judge within this state, who is in possession of a valid concealed handgun license issued pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act and whose name appears on a list maintained by the Administrative Director or the Courts; or
5. The carrying and use of firearms and other weapons provided in this subsection when used for the purpose of living history reenactment. For purposes of this paragraph, living history reenactment means depiction of historical characters, scenes, historical life or events for entertainment, education, or historical documentation through the wearing or use of period, historical, antique or vintage clothing, accessories, firearms, weapons, and other implements of the historical period.