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    FOX 13 Seattle will have a report on CPLs at 5PM news report

    FOX has announced that they will have a report on the record number of CPL applications in Washington, today at 1700(5PM). I am hoping they got the information correct.

    we shall see
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    FOX has announced that they will have a report on the record number of CPL applications in Washington, today at 1700(5PM). I am hoping they got the information correct.

    we shall see
    I'll be watching for sure.....it will be interesting to see how they will spin the topic....I am sure they will have several "man on the street" interviews and possibly some local political wonks...

    ....and the "proof statement" at the beginning framing the piece in the first place.....
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    Looks like mayor maginn will be ranting again too.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

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    I just about barfed with there quick preview, when we return... It sounds like they will be blaming the 'sharp increase' in murders in this state to the increase in gun sales. I am hoping not, but that's how its setup.
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    three dead bad guys that won't be trying that again. well said Dave

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    I wasn't surprised they set the story up with a random murder at the top of the hour....it was also sadly coincidental that the victim died in the middle of the telecast....

    I thought it interesting the attempt to tie the 360,000 CPL holders to the "spike" in crime...they didn't research enough to know that the applicant rate has just simply been steady and increasing at some good percentage a year, every year..not a "dramatic" increase that can be tied to some newly discoverd urgent fear....more and more people are coming to the realization that it's a dangerous world out there, and the PD just isn't going to make it in time to make a difference.

    I thought the interviewer and the subsequent editing with D. Workman was pretty neutral as was the statements from the Mayor....two sides, two opposing views on the same issue, Nothing new here....but didn't get a hard bias from the reporter.

    1 in 14 have a cpl, and our crime rates are actually down.....they reported. I'm guessing when you take out the folks that are simply ineligible for a CPL for age, criminal history, incarceration or other issues in the state demographic, the ratio is higher than stated.

    Over all I thought it a good report....Workman got the high points in and on target. "Your on your own"!....something, we all understand.
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    Video

    Sorry for the background noise.

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    Washington sees a sharp increase in concealed weapon permits


    One of the better stories that have ran for citizens arming themselves.
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    If Mike McGinn has a mouth, the likelyhood that something really stupid will come out of it goes up dramatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    If Mike McGinn has a mouth, the likelyhood that something really stupid will come out of it goes up dramatically.
    Just wondering... does the mayor have any kind of personal security detail? Any way to check if HE has a CPL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Just wondering... does the mayor have any kind of personal security detail? Any way to check if HE has a CPL?
    He's a Lawyer that's been transplanted from New York. He probably doesn't even know which end of a gun the bullets come out of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    He's a Lawyer that's been transplanted from New York. He probably doesn't even know which end of a gun the bullets come out of.
    The bottom, clearly.... That's where the holder thing comes out of it....
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    Geez, that guy Workman has a face for radio...or milk cartons.

    I'm a bit disappointed in Roberts' editing. We chatted for quite a while.
    Ah, well.

    Overall, it was balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Workman View Post
    Geez, that guy Workman has a face for radio...or milk cartons.

    I'm a bit disappointed in Roberts' editing. We chatted for quite a while.
    Ah, well.

    Overall, it was balanced.
    Dave you should know by now it is not about what story you want to get out when being interviewed it is what the reporter or editor wants it to come out as.
    At least they did put out a couple pretty good quotes in it.
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    Good job Dave

    I thought it came out better than I expected. Dave was fluid and succinct, the mayor seemed to be speaking in his usual stumbling manner when it comes to those "scary guns". I noticed the mayor did not say much about crime, just the "gun".
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    (McGinn) probably doesn't even know which end of a gun the bullets come out of.
    Probably the end he's looking at...
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    He's a Lawyer that's been transplanted from New York. He probably doesn't even know which end of a gun the bullets come out of.
    That makes him an Elite. The same rules that apply to us don't apply to out Beneficent Overbearers. So the question remains...
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    My Wife and I had a good laugh after hearing Mayor McGinn. We've had at least 3 firearms in our home as long as we have been married and even with children around, we have never had issues like Mike insinuated will happen.
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    I sent a Facebook message to David Rose expressing my displeasure with the report seeming to attempt to connect an increase in CPL holders to an increase in murders. He responded that he had not seen the piece until they aired it and that he felt it could have been done much better as well. He also said that he was forwarding my comments on to C.R. Douglas and the news' executive producer.

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    So are they trying to link ccw to Zimmerman? Is this a new tatic for CeaseFire? I think three points Dave Workman could of added, one it costs $26,000 to house 1 inmate in prison, two, because of conceal carry permits Seattle and Washington State our one of the safest cities and states in the nation, and three, and I know Dave said something similar to this, but 99% of the time cops arrive after the crime is committed. I think Dave did a great job. How many of the murders were committed by conceal carry permit holders? Who were the victims and what were the circumstances? The mayor has a body guard team. I think I'm going to CeaseFire luncheon. Keep your friends close, keep your eneimes closer.
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    If... Then .. applies to anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batousaii View Post
    1) People that own cars are 10x more likely to have auto accidents than those that don't.
    2) Women that have sex have a 100% higher pregnancy rate than those that do not.
    3) Children that talk are 10x more likely to tell you "NO" than children that remain quiet.
    4) Mayors that spin the truth are more prone to lying than mayors that talk straight.
    5) People that cook food are 10x more likely to get burned on a stove than those that eat out.
    6) People that have pets are 10x more likely to get bit than those that do not.
    7) People that cross streets are 10x more likely to get hit by the driver who has the 10x higher accident rate.. thus giving you an almost 100% chance of getting hit by a car durring any given crossing !!!!

    Gawd Dammit people!! - STOP CROSSING STREETS !!

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    In the 35 years that I've been around firearms, I've had ONE negligent discharge. That ONE negligent discharge was caused by me, being negligent, and NOT following the simple rules of handling my firearms. After that ONE ND, I learned to be much more responsible with my firearms, and nobody has been hurt. Stick that in your statistics Mayor McGimpy.
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