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    Question A Park?

    A few weeks ago I was told by a police officer that it is illegal to OC in parks in Arvada or jefferson county. I wasn't given a ticket because he said im not the type of people there out for and just a lesson I guess?

    so is oc in a park that has no signs saying you cant OC or have a weapon ect. be against the law?

    also I was in my truck which would be considered private property correct.

    just wondering.

    Semper,

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    According to the info you've given here (Jefferson County, Arvada, public park, in vehicle) you were completely legal and he was dead wrong about 9 different ways.

    About the only way this would have been close to illegal is if the park was under the supervision of Denver Parks and Rec. I just found one of those up in Genosee this last weekend.

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    I live in wheat ridge Arvada area. That cop was dead wrong. Unless the park is right by a school or classified a Denver park you did nothing wrong.

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    If that happened to me, I would have dared him to write me a ticket. Seems like he needs to find a new type of work. You should have got his badge number and filed a complaint against him for being ignorant of Colorado law.

    He didnt write you a ticket because there was no ticket he could write you.

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    Ok thats what I was thinking. I new he had to be wrong but I didn't give him any trouble. I had a M&P15 in the back seat and he said that was fine because it was out of reach, he did mention he was in the army for 27 years and retired and that the Marines were always causing trouble.

    oh well it only killed like 20 min of time so I at least got to charge my cell phone.

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    To ALL Whom are Concerned:

    The Colorado Legislature Enacted Colorado Code 29-11.7-104 in 2003. This Code Section Authorizes Local Governmental Units in Colorado to Enact an Ordinance Specifically Prohibiting Open Carry within a Certain Building or Area under The Local Governments' Control. The Law can be found here: http://www.michie.com/colorado/lpext...main-h.htm&cp=

    Arvada, Colorado Enacted a Local Ordinance Pursuant to The Authority Vested to it under Colorado Law 29-11.7-104, as Cited. The Ordinance is Ordinance No.: 62-71, and is Viewable here: http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=19934

    Additionally, Arvadas' Website Contains The Following Information: http://arvada.org/about-arvada/guns

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    *** Fortunately..., Colorado REQUIRES Concealed Carry Licensees to be able to Carry a Concealed Handgun ANYWHERE within Colorado such Persons Please EXCEPT Schools for Children AND Places Off-Limits under United States Federal Law (such as Post Offices, Areas of Airports beyond The Area where The TSA Operates Security Screening, and Federal Buildings Owned and Operated by The United States Federal Government). ***
    Last edited by aadvark; 04-26-2012 at 10:05 PM.

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    According to the state law posted above the Arvada municipal code is not enforceable unless there are signs posted at every entrance to the building or specific area. If the OP is correct the city has not posted the areas. How do you post hiking trails and green belts and every entrance to a park?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLCbushpilot View Post
    According to the state law posted above the Arvada municipal code is not enforceable unless there are signs posted at every entrance to the building or specific area. If the OP is correct the city has not posted the areas. How do you post hiking trails and green belts and every entrance to a park?!


    You don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porterhouse83 View Post
    You don't.
    and they don't either.
    Last edited by JamesB; 04-27-2012 at 10:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Hoff View Post
    Also I was in my truck which would be considered private property correct.
    Correct. It's considered an extension of your home under Colorado State Law. There is no such thing as "OC inside a vehicle," even if it's visible, and as such is the justification you can use to drive through Denver carrying in a holster on your hip with impunity. I drive to/from the airport 6 times a year, minimum, carrying on my hip. I'm just careful to remove my holster and store it sight unseen before disembarking from the vehicle!
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Hoff View Post
    Ok thats what I was thinking. I new he had to be wrong but I didn't give him any trouble. I had a M&P15 in the back seat and he said that was fine because it was out of reach, he did mention he was in the army for 27 years and retired and that the Marines were always causing trouble.

    oh well it only killed like 20 min of time so I at least got to charge my cell phone.
    What the hell is he talking about. You can have a rifle on the dash and it would be fine as long as there is no round in the chamber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Live View Post
    What the hell is he talking about. You can have a rifle on the dash and it would be fine as long as there is no round in the chamber
    Well it's not like the cop was right about anything else he said...

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    To ALL Whom are Concerned:

    I have NOT been to Arvada, Colorado.

    Therefore, I can neither Confirm or Deny that They have Posted The Prohibitions as to Colorado Code 29-11.7-104.

    However, I Agree with Others Using My Better Judgement that They have NOT Posted such Public Park Property.

    aadvark

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    Quote Originally Posted by aadvark View Post
    To ALL Whom are Concerned:

    I have NOT been to Arvada, Colorado.

    Therefore, I can neither Confirm or Deny that They have Posted The Prohibitions as to Colorado Code 29-11.7-104.
    Also to whom it may concern:

    I have been to Arvada. Lived there for a few years in my adolescence and pre-bohemian days. But I can neither confirm nor deny such postings.

    Oh, I've been to Georgia and California and anywhere I could run
    Took the hand of a village maiden
    and we made love in the sun
    Oh, I've been to Nice and the isle of Greece
    when I sipped champagne on a yacht
    I moved like Harlow in Monte Carlo
    and showed them what I've got
    I've been to paradise but I've never been to me...

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