LMTD,
What is this SIS’s your guys are referring to?
Suspended Imposition of Sentence, a guilty plea to a crime of various sorts and the defendant is given an SIS of say 2 years unsupervised probation, if they do not repeat offend at the end of probation they are free. If they violate during that period, they are then possibly going to serve the 2 years in jail. It is probation with the threat of jail on top of it so to speak.
A lot of persons fall under the false assumption that an SIS is automatically expunged (removed from record) which is not true, they are not and remain for ever unless someone chooses to try and get them expunged which can and does happen.
In many CCW states the language is "convicted of a crime" so to speak but in MO language it is "convicted of or plead guilty to a crime that carries a sentence of 1 year or more" That means if the crime COULD sentence a person to a year, even if they only got 15 days, it can still hold them up from getting a CCW. Over on the MSSA site for the last several years there have been many a person who did the "bar fight" assault charge or various other fairly tame criminal activity, plead to an SIS and find that 30 years later in their 50's they can not obtain a permit from the state of MO.
As he put it forward, Zeke got a DUI, that carries a sentence in MO of over one year, though rarely handed out, it still counts. In many cases a 1st time offender such as Zeke is advised to take a plea deal SIS 1 year, unsupervised probation, booze classes and sr22 insurance and if they do not re-offend they are free to go. There are provisions within the CCW laws for this offense since it is a common one that prevent one DUI from preventing a CCW permit like other SIS convictions might aka assault etc.
Sounds like a double edged sword for Zeke, his permit expired during probation perhaps aka not eligible for renewal, he obtained an OOS, he wants to renew the MO but last year the rules changed, this year they are changing them again and IMHO from what I read, assuming the bill passes into law, if he does not get it done prior to 8-31-2012 he will indeed have to pay for and re-certify. As it sits right now, I do not know of any sheriffs doing this, just as you said, yours did not require it, I have heard of no others that do either, but according to the bad bill in session right now, they will have to for new and EXPIRED permits.
That is important to know because I am sure I am not the only person on this board to ever forget to renew a drivers license or plate and if you forget your CCW and it is from the old requirements, they may well force you to obtain a new training certificate that is dated post 8-31-2011.
Wish I had a magic wand cause I would wave it, leave the permitting system in place for those who applied, but there would be no permit required to ccw or oc through out the state of mo and any muni that left a law on the books for intimidation purposes would be fined 2,500 bucks per law, per day until they had properly informed the citizens that 2a rights were welcome at all levels and would exclude very few places, court houses, jails and perhaps mental health facilities.