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Virginia Beach Amphitheater
- Thread starter peter nap
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Wolf_shadow
Activist Member
I've never been there but found this:
Verizon Wireless Virginia Beach Amphitheatre Website goes to Farm Bureau Live at Virginia Beach. I cant find who owns it.
General Rules
All items are subject to change per artist restrictions. NO bottles, coolers, or pets. NO weapons or recording devices are permitted. Blankets and cushions are allowed (restricted on some shows).
Call venue for more info.
LAWN CHAIR POLICY – guests are welcome to bring personal lawn chairs into the
amphitheater. To ensure clear sightlines for all of our guests, only low lawn chairs with a seatback no higher than 9” off the ground are permitted.
FOOD POLICY FOR MOST SHOWS - the amphitheater will permit patrons to bring in most food items as long as they fit in a one gallon clear zip-loc style bag. For safety concerns patron will be required to show the bag to amphitheater staff upon entering facility. One factory sealed bottle of water is also permitted.
CAMERA POLICY - Personal cameras are allowed in the venue subject to artist approval. Flash photography, video and removable lens cameras are not permitted without venue approval.
Children Rules
Children 2 and under free on lap.
Family specials: some shows will be designated as a family special. This permits one child (12 yrs or under) free admission onto the festival lawn with each adult ticket holder. Call venue for list of family specials.
According to Wiki, its own by 'Live Nation Entertainment'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_Bureau_Live_at_Virginia_Beach
Address
3550 Cellar Door Way
Virginia Beach, VA 23456
Type
Outdoor amphitheatre
Opened
1996
Owner
Live Nation Entertainment
Former name(s)
Virginia Beach Amphitheater (1996, 2010-11)
GTE Virginia Beach Amphitheater (1996-2006)
Verizon Wireless Amphitheater at Virginia Beach (2006-2010)
Seating type
Reserved and lawn seating
Capacity
20,000[1]
Website
Farm Bureau Live at Virginia Beach
Thanks guys...looks like I need some custom luggage!:uhoh:
wylde007
Regular Member
Absolute C***
That this is "owned" by Live Nation when the CITY OF VIRGINIA BEACH put up almost 2/3 of the cost in bonds to build the damnable thing.
Standing by that "logic"... and this still should hold true I found the following which may be worth delving deeper into:
"Virginia Beach paid for more than half of the amphitheater's construction costs and receives five percent of all sponsorships."
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/116742684.html?storySection=story
If Virginia Beach still holds a financial interest in the property, then shouldn't they be prohibited by preemption from prohibiting lawfully-carried arms?
Yes. Yes they should.
That this is "owned" by Live Nation when the CITY OF VIRGINIA BEACH put up almost 2/3 of the cost in bonds to build the damnable thing.
Standing by that "logic"... and this still should hold true I found the following which may be worth delving deeper into:
"Virginia Beach paid for more than half of the amphitheater's construction costs and receives five percent of all sponsorships."
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/116742684.html?storySection=story
If Virginia Beach still holds a financial interest in the property, then shouldn't they be prohibited by preemption from prohibiting lawfully-carried arms?
Yes. Yes they should.
I think I can get away with taking the GH2,,,it doesn't look like a professional camera if I use a small lens.
I'm going to look into the preemption side of it and if I can't carry a gun, I'll take my Taser in and leave the gun in the car.
mpg9999
Regular Member
FYI they usually pat down pockets and sometimes around your hips.
Thanks!
FretlessMayhem
Regular Member
Wanding
Peter, I've seen them have deputies posted at the ticket entrance wanding people on multiple occasions as well.
Beautiful place to take in a rock show, but the $12 beer is highway robbery!
Peter, I've seen them have deputies posted at the ticket entrance wanding people on multiple occasions as well.
Beautiful place to take in a rock show, but the $12 beer is highway robbery!
No problem, I'm not going to carry a gun where it's illegal. I'll just leave it in the car. The camera I'm taking will get by nearly any Deputy. They're generally too stupid to know the difference between 1080P and a Polaroid Snapshot.
IMO preemption applies
The city owns the land, built the facility and has never sold it/transferred ownership. IMO - this is no different that the Richmond Coliseum, Hampton Coliseum, Norfolk Scope = preemption applies.
Perhaps someone FOIA the city of Virginia Beach to see how they will answer the question of ownership.
In its arrangement with Live Nation, which operates the amphitheater, the city gets 5 percent of all sponsorships. In 2009, the city received $53,000, Wawner said.
http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/virginia-beach-venue-no-longer-carries-corporate-name
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/02/va-beach-amphitheater-gets-new-name-farm-bureau-liveIn its arrangement with Live Nation, which operates the venue, the city gets 5 percent of all
Virginia Beach Mayor Will Sessoms praised the Farm Bureau partnership and cited the amphitheater as a successful public-private partnership. The city owns the property and shares in the venue's profits.
http://articles.dailypress.com/2011...heater-big-country-country-megaticket-package
The city of Virginia Beach owns the amphitheater. It is leased by concert promoters
http://articles.dailypress.com/1996-12-31/news/9612310047_1_concert-venue-seating-disabled
suing the private company that runs the city-owned venue, saying it is illegally monopolizing the live-music industry here.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-68466984.html
The city owns the land, built the facility and has never sold it/transferred ownership. IMO - this is no different that the Richmond Coliseum, Hampton Coliseum, Norfolk Scope = preemption applies.
Perhaps someone FOIA the city of Virginia Beach to see how they will answer the question of ownership.
In its arrangement with Live Nation, which operates the amphitheater, the city gets 5 percent of all sponsorships. In 2009, the city received $53,000, Wawner said.
http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/virginia-beach-venue-no-longer-carries-corporate-name
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/02/va-beach-amphitheater-gets-new-name-farm-bureau-liveIn its arrangement with Live Nation, which operates the venue, the city gets 5 percent of all
Virginia Beach Mayor Will Sessoms praised the Farm Bureau partnership and cited the amphitheater as a successful public-private partnership. The city owns the property and shares in the venue's profits.
http://articles.dailypress.com/2011...heater-big-country-country-megaticket-package
The city of Virginia Beach owns the amphitheater. It is leased by concert promoters
http://articles.dailypress.com/1996-12-31/news/9612310047_1_concert-venue-seating-disabled
suing the private company that runs the city-owned venue, saying it is illegally monopolizing the live-music industry here.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-68466984.html
wylde007
Regular Member
I though it was funny when I went to see Megadeth at Hampton and the sign read (paraphrased) "No knives, outside food or drink, or PROFESSIONAL camera equipment allowed".
Their sign acknowledged, by omission, that they could not prohibit lawfully-carried firearms.
Handheld (point-and-shoot) cameras were everywhere, just no Nikons with howitzer lenses.
Thanks Grape!
That saved me a lot of time today and confirmed my suspicion that it was going to be another Richmond Coliseum.
It's funny, if it is city owned they can't ban my gun but can ban my Tazer:lol:
I'm going to take my hacked XXX. Does better video than some Red's and with the TE crop, I can double the focal length without losing any image quality...and it looks like a small Tourist DSLR.
With a small 50mm Pentax A lens it almost takes video in pitch black
That saved me a lot of time today and confirmed my suspicion that it was going to be another Richmond Coliseum.
It's funny, if it is city owned they can't ban my gun but can ban my Tazer:lol:
I'm going to take my hacked XXX. Does better video than some Red's and with the TE crop, I can double the focal length without losing any image quality...and it looks like a small Tourist DSLR.
With a small 50mm Pentax A lens it almost takes video in pitch black
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That brings up an interesting point.
We don't need just a change to CWP. What we need is complete state preemption of all weapons laws.
This would/should include what (knives, tasers, batons et al) & where (K-12 schools, universities etc)
grylnsmn
Regular Member
Not necessarily. It depends on the exact relationship between the city and the operators.
If the city hired Live Nation to act as their agents in operating the facility, then you are correct. However, if Live Nation is leasing the property from the city, then Live Nation would not be covered by preemption, per the March 16, 2010 AG's opinion.
To a certain extent, that makes sense. If the city were to own an apartment building and I were to lease one of the apartments, then I would be free to prohibit firearms within the property that I leased. However, the city couldn't hire someone to manage the property on their behalf and allow that person to prohibit firearms on the property.
Which means that the real question is does Live Nation lease the amphitheatre, or are they merely contracted to operate it?
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Yep!
Skeptic
Founder's Club Member
This is going to be interesting...
"and they would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling kids"
"and they would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling kids"
kenny
Regular Member
I live in Va Beach in another life. I remember the land before it became a concert venue. It was owned by the city. I believe you will find the same type of arrangement that Richmond has with SMG.
The land was originally part of Princess Anne County before it was absorbed by the City of Virginia Beach.
The land was originally part of Princess Anne County before it was absorbed by the City of Virginia Beach.
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