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    SCOTUS For President

    We are not electing a president this term, we are electing the supreme court.

    Mark my words. Either Obama or Mitt will enact another assault weapons ban next term, it will not have an expiration date. The case will have to go before the supreme court (if they will hear it) and the decision on that case will be made by the people who Obama or Mitt appoint to the position.
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    Is there still time to panic?
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    Until they pass a bill, there is still time. I do have to thank the current President though, his election is why I bought my first handgun, and he is why I decided to get that bad@$$ black Socom 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    We are not electing a president this term, we are electing the supreme court.

    Mark my words. Either Obama or Mitt will enact another assault weapons ban next term, it will not have an expiration date. The case will have to go before the supreme court (if they will hear it) and the decision on that case will be made by the people who Obama or Mitt appoint to the position.
    I don't see an AWB happening. Democrats aren't going to take the House, and they may barely hold onto the Senate. Also, there are many Democrats that will not vote for an AWB because they are in pro-Second areas of the Country.

    So, no matter who we vote for, we are essentially voting for the same person? I agree! Vote Obama 2012.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    So, no matter who we vote for, we are essentially voting for the same person? I agree!
    By your own statements, Romney would be the same result, so why don't you endorse him, instead?

    You really are transparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ()pen(arry View Post
    By your own statements, Romney would be the same result, so why don't you endorse him, instead?

    You really are transparent.
    With Obama, I know just how bad things are. With Romney, it's up in the air at how bad he can get.

    Yes, I am transparent.

    I have seen Republicans progressively lower the bar of expectations as the months have passed. Now some Republicans are stating that this election is about SCOTUS. So much for standing on your Principles. There is nothing of the ordinary in this political posturing, Republicans conceding that Romney--of all people LOL-- is their best chance against President Obama. And the Democrats supporting President Obama again, as if President Obama has been anything near the Liberal Democrats were under the impression they voted into office.

    I will stick with President Obama. Romney is worse...IS WORSE than the Obama option, IMO, of course.
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    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    In part, we agree. At least with Obama, we know what we are getting. Obama said that he would wait until re election to go after certain issues, guns being one of those, and that is exactly what he will do, with the same reckless disregard for opinion constitution or consequene that he has exhibited throughout his career.

    Mitt is a flip flopper, a wild card. Someone threw a shoe at president bush, someone should throw a flip flop at Mitt.

    Neither one of them is a good choice for this country, so I refer back to my origonal post. We are going to be electing SCOTUS this term. It really doesnt matter otherwise, who gets in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    In part, we agree. At least with Obama, we know what we are getting. Obama said that he would wait until re election to go after certain issues, guns being one of those,[snipper]
    I would appreciate your directing to where Obama said he would go after firearms in his second term.


    Mitt is a flip flopper, a wild card. Someone threw a shoe at president bush, someone should throw a flip flop at Mitt.
    And yet you would vote for Romney? How do you know that Romney won;t go into office, and seek to ban firearms?

    Neither one of them is a good choice for this country, so I refer back to my origonal post. We are going to be electing SCOTUS this term. It really doesnt matter otherwise, who gets in.
    You can thank Republicans for the crappy choice on their side this time around.

    Now it's about SCOTUS--do you believe that Romney is going to put-up Conservative Justices?

    Paul should have ran Third Party.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    The difference between obama and Romney is simple, with obama, we know what direction we are going, down.We've nearly hit rock bottom as it is. With Romney, at least there is the possibility to start back up again.

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    Based on past 'accomplishments', no one can state with any certitude how bad it can get with a Obama second term. Unfortunately we will not know how bad it could get until it gets that bad, or worse....there by making it too late.
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    Obama has said that he will work on gun control under the radar, and without congress if possible.

    As far as Mitt and gun control goes, just take it from Mitt, not me.

    Mitt will appoint centerist judges, Obama will appoint socialists.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF-jdo7DZRw <---- this one is great

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    It doesnt matter what the "pro gun" lobby agrees with, it matters what oath you take. As someone who took an oath, you tell the pro gun, and the anti gun people aline, "No, I took an oath".

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    We are not electing a president this term, we are electing the supreme court.

    Mark my words. Either Obama or Mitt will enact another assault weapons ban next term, it will not have an expiration date. The case will have to go before the supreme court (if they will hear it) and the decision on that case will be made by the people who Obama or Mitt appoint to the position.
    In this case we are worse off with Mott than we are Obama. Republicans law makers will be less apt to resist antiggun legislation from a Republican president.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    In this case we are worse off with Mott than we are Obama. Republicans law makers will be less apt to resist antiggun legislation from a Republican president.
    Im more concerned with the SCOTUS appointments than the next 4 years under either president. SCOTUS hold offices for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post

    Paul should have ran Third Party.

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    Ain't no third party candidate going to take the election.

    Ron Paul was the republicans best chance at taking the house. Unfortunately for Ron Paul, he would have done everything he could to upset the status quo. Great for us, terrible for those that rely on the status quo for their livelihood. Meaning pretty much ever republican politician.

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    Republicans dont get it. Pick one guy, prep him for several years, promote and run that guy, and only that guy, and only after you get everyone behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    We are not electing a president this term, we are electing the supreme court.

    Mark my words. Either Obama or Mitt will enact another assault weapons ban next term, it will not have an expiration date. The case will have to go before the supreme court (if they will hear it) and the decision on that case will be made by the people who Obama or Mitt appoint to the position.
    Are you arguing that Romney will nominate better justices than Obama?

    If that's the case, I respectfully disagree.

    Romney supported an individual mandate. Regardless of what he says now, I still believe he supports it in his heart of hearts.
    Romney supported a gun control. Regardless of what he says now, I still believe he supports it in his heart of hearts.
    Romney currently supports foreign wars of aggression
    Romney currently supports the War on Some Drugs.

    In these ways, and in many, many others, he is a carbon-copy of Obama when it comes to their core, Northeastern (I know both are originally from the Midwest, but the NE is the Mecca), liberal value systems. What makes you think he would, out of the blue, start appointing constitutionalists?

    Of course, this is assuming that the next president gets to nominate any justices at all.

    The oldest justice (79) is Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a liberal loon and aged feminazi. This is followed by Scalia (76), Kennedy (75), and Breyer (73). Scalia is regarded as conservative, Kennedy as "moderate" (aka liberal lite), and Breyer as liberal. So, the way I figure, there is a 1 in 2 chance of the next appointment being to replace a liberal, so we wouldn't lose anything anyway. There is a 1 in 4 chance that a moderate will get replaced with someone more liberal, and a 1 in 4 chance that a conservative stalwart will be replaced with Barack's latest diversity hire. The odds aren't great, but they are better for us than for the other side. Besides, if Obama wins reelection, I think Scalia will cling on just to avoid giving Uncle Barry the chance to replace him.
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    We KNOW, that Obama will appoint a hard left socialist, and we know that Mitt might appoint a lefty. We are going for the lesser of two evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    We KNOW, that Obama will appoint a hard left socialist, and we know that Mitt might appoint a lefty. We are going for the lesser of two evils.
    We KNOW that Mitt won't appoint a constitutionalist. Anyone other than a constitutionalist is, more than likely, going to be part of the next 5-4 majority that votes to restrict our rights. It doesn't matter how far left or right a justice in relative ideological terms; it only matters which side of the vote they will line up on.
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    All the talk about Overthrowing Big Government, Revolution, etc., it's just another one of those nostalgic ideas that individuals have idealized.
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    I know he wont appoint a constitutionalist to SCOTUS. That isnt the point. He is 1,000 times more likely to appoint someone more towards the center than Obama, you know that as well as I, or anyone else. We know that Obama is going to go left, we are going for (once again), the lesser of two evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    We know that Obama is going to go left, we are going for (once again), the lesser of two evils.
    Speak for yourself; I am going for the good. It's not my fault the rest of the country hasn't caught on yet.

    Mitt Romney will restrict our rights in some way, shape, or form (not only on firearms). Obama is already doing so and will continue.

    I refuse to be responsible for either.
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    I dont like either one of them.


    Are you saying that you aren't voting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    I dont like either one of them.


    Are you saying that you aren't voting?
    I'm saying I'm voting for a candidate who I believe in, not one who I know will restrict my rights.
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    If he's still in the running by then. If It wasnt for the SCOTUS appointments, I'd vote for Ron Paul.

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