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    OT - So I did something stupid...

    I've been carrying pepper spray with me for quite some time. I've never used it before and wasn't sure what to expect if I did. I'm just not the kind of guy to leave well enough alone. That and boredom of having been a few months on a ship set in.

    Two days ago I decided I needed to try out shooting some to get an idea of what I'm doing. I decided that spraying it into the shower from the head (bathroom) door would be my best choice. (It made sense to me before I did this but now the logic completely evades me.) It's 9' from the door to the wall it hit.

    Here's the results. My head and state room immediately became uninhabitable. It took several hours of ventilating before It could go back in. There is now a large(1'x1') orange stain on the shower wall that I've scrubbed aggressively several times. Now every time I take a shower my nose burns and runs. Also, the 2oz bottle emptied in a fraction of a second.

    My Recommendations:

    1. This is for outdoor use only. The area I used this was fairly sizable and still not enough space to be safe from blow back.

    2. It's a one shot weapon. The one I had didn't spray like hairnet, it came out fast and furious and was done so fast I'd really have to practice to get multiple uses out if it.

    3. If you're going to use it, understand you'll get sprayed too. You may not get it as badly as the poor guy who's face you just painted orange but I doubt you can use pepper spray without some residual getting on you.

    4. This stuff hurts. If you're going to use it you'd better damn well be prepared for the sprayee to be upset with you.

    5. It's close range. I doubt it would be effective beyond 15'. Use your head and don't waste your shot.

    I know some of you are reading this and shaking your heads. I just hope that my pain serves to prevent another's.
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    What sort of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.

    I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.

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    Levi, I'm sorry but this is one of the funniest things I've read on here!
    It's true that if you use it you can expect to be contaminated as well. In the future try warm milk or warm water to decontaminate yourself. Milk dilutes the Capsacin (spelling?) and because it is warm it will keep your pores open and flush them out. If you use cold water or milk your pores will snap shut and the effects will last longer.
    Also, the fairer skinned you are the worse the reaction. If you wear contacts you need to remove them immediately upon contamination. I once ended up in the ER because someone assaulted me with OC. I removed one contact but the other bonded with my eye and had to be cut off.
    Try washing the wall with warm milk. At the very least it should help dilute the stain and lessen it's effects.
    Good luck!
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    Well I have always said one needs to practice.

    Failure to practice - you fail to understand the limitations of yourself and the equipment you are wanting to deploy.

    As a show of the other extreme.

    A gal within the last year attempted to use her pepper spray but was not familiar enough and was not able to release the safety in time. She ended up being assaulted and having her own pepper spray used on her.
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    Thanks for the play by play. I'm sure that was horrible. As OC spray goes you want at least a 6oz for repeated attacks in case you miss(a 9-12oz is better but whatever you can manage is better than nothing). Oil based over water and foam being it will stick much better and always test your OC spray outside even if it's half a second to insure it works. There are duds as with any other product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decklin View Post
    Levi, I'm sorry but this is one of the funniest things I've read on here!
    As I'm getting my port hole open to ventilate with my eyes burning and my nose running I'm thinking to myself "this is going to make one hell of a bar room story." While I'm ashamed of my faulty mental process in choice of location, the incident deserves to be enjoyed as well as used as an object lesson.
    What sort of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.

    I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.

    The freedom to succeed goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail. - Going Postal, Terry Pratchett

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    I remember sending people thru the CS gas chamber for the Army. Always a great deal of fun. The compound reacted to water and wet things would burn more. Sounds like your gas may be water activated.

    I am so sorry, but I am having a lot of trouble feeling bad about this. It is like the saying... "It's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt, then it's hilarious". I have been gassed so many times over the years. Always fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    I decided that spraying it into the shower from the head (bathroom) door would be my best choice. (It made sense to me before I did this but now the logic completely evades me.) It's 9' from the door to the wall it hit.
    lol Don't feel so bad, it's not like you NDed your gun or something. I did exactly what you did...well, not emptied my entire little can of OC but a quick burst into the bathtub wall. There was a bit of blowback. lol I probably drank a half gallon of milk. It's good to know the feeling so it isn't completely foreign. Just OC spray, ain't gonna kill ya.

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    state rm, port hole, you sure have it rough
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    state rm, port hole, you sure have it rought:
    ...and pepper spray! Makes one wonder - Hmm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    state rm, port hole, you sure have it rought
    Former Navy? So am I.

    While some things are certainly better on a commercial ship, there's a reason the extra effort is made to provide comfortable living arrangements. I work harder and get no liberty time when under articles. (Articles are what you sign for the duration of a job on a ship.) Also, a commercial ship is like a shark, it has to keep moving. 6 month articles is 6 months of 12 hour days and 7 day work weeks. That's something I never saw in the Navy

    I was recently on a ship that had a split crew of civilians and military. Each eyed the other with considerable jealousy. Watching the Navy guys go play for a week in port while we had to work did give me a twinge.
    What sort of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.

    I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.

    The freedom to succeed goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail. - Going Postal, Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    ...and pepper spray! Makes one wonder - Hmm!
    Having the spray was kind of an accident. I carry it when I'm not on a ship and I forgot it in my jacket pocket when I signed on.
    What sort of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.

    I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.

    The freedom to succeed goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail. - Going Postal, Terry Pratchett

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    We're not laughing at you, we are laughing with you...
    Sounds like the start of a Bill Engvall bit... Too bad they didnt put a notice on the bottle "Do not use in small enclosed area's" - Here's your sign.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    Former Navy? So am I.
    Yep, retired Navy. That's for your service Levi!

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    classic.
    what is next? test the ole taser.........

    seriously thou thanks for sharing. I am gonna laugh about this just about as long as that stain lasts.

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    Didn't you read that other thread about the guy in Starbucks??? He peppered some obnoxious old lady for a long time ("until the police arrived" is generally a long time) and didn't bother himself or anyone else in a crowded store. So clearly, you're doing it wrong.


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    FYI, dont play russian roulette with a chambered semi-automatic...
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterfowl woody View Post
    classic.
    what is next? test the ole taser.........
    Nope, I did zap myself with a mega-ohm meter though. It puts out 1kV via a hand crank. (Again, a few months at sea, available meter, incurable curiosity...) I don't have any desire to try out the 100kV that a TASER is supposed to do.
    What sort of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.

    I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.

    The freedom to succeed goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail. - Going Postal, Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterfowl woody View Post
    ...what is next? test the ole taser.........
    Taser you say. Made my first one from a SDU-5/E strobe light in say about "85". Zep they hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterfowl woody View Post
    ...what is next? test the ole taser.........
    Taser you say. Made my first one from a SDU-5/E strobe light in say about "85". Yep they hurt! More of a stun gun you might say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    Nope, I did zap myself with a mega-ohm meter though. It puts out 1kV via a hand crank. (Again, a few months at sea, available meter, incurable curiosity...) I don't have any desire to try out the 100kV that a TASER is supposed to do.
    BTDD!

    Actually I didn't do it myself my buddy zapped me.
    Reminded me of the time I got nailed by a spark plug wire that was a little frayed.

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    When I was in the Navy, back in the days of discrete electronic components, one soon learned to NOT catch the tossed capacitor.

    That may have been about the time of the build up to the Yom Kippur War when we sailed with no notice for months of port and report until the fleet of TF-60 and TF-61, with flagship USS Little Rock, built up from four submarines to about a dozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    When I was in the Navy, back in the days of discrete electronic components, one soon learned to NOT catch the tossed capacitor.
    That game was still going when I got out in '03. We used to set them places we hoped someone would pick them up by mistake. Technically, this is illegal as is violates NAVOSH regulations against "intentionally receiving or causing another to receive an electric shock."

    I can neither confirm or deny the number of persons or names of individuals involved when I took a hit from the megger. (Some of them are still active duty.) What I can confirm is that the phrase "ok, you do me" was used. Later, when I was one of the senior guys, I walked in on a group that was doing it. I believe my exact words were "if one of you gets hurt, my name had better not come up."
    What sort of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.

    I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.

    The freedom to succeed goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail. - Going Postal, Terry Pratchett

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    lol sorry I am not trying to laugh at you but I got a good mental image of what that must have looked like. Yes if you use it you use it you are going to get hit but its better knowing how to deal with it now than letting it surprise you when your life is in danger. I prefer foam over spray it does not go into the air as much but with foam you run the risk of the bad guy being able to throw the stuff back at you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    Nope, I did zap myself with a mega-ohm meter though. It puts out 1kV via a hand crank. (Again, a few months at sea, available meter, incurable curiosity...) I don't have any desire to try out the 100kV that a TASER is supposed to do.
    Used to be an apprentice electrician. I've been bit by 110 and 220 and hardly flinched, but the absolute worse was a 14V DC lighting system. Laying up in a drop ceiling in a bank building, in New Mexico, in the hot crawl space, sweating all over the conduits and ceiling girders. Was wiring up a small inverter when my hand slipped on my lineman's pliers and BAM. Bounced me about a dozen times from the girders to the concrete ceiling two foot above me. Damned if I didn't do it again a couple hours later wiring up a transformer in a light in one of the offices, only that one didn't bounce me, just grabbed hold and tried to kill me. Fortunately my journeyman knocked me off the ladder onto the secretary's desk. That stuff hurts like hell. I would much rather be tagged by 110 or 220 AC than that dang DC stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirpuma View Post
    Used to be an apprentice electrician. I've been bit by 110 and 220 and hardly flinched, but the absolute worse was a 14V DC lighting system. Laying up in a drop ceiling in a bank building, in New Mexico, in the hot crawl space, sweating all over the conduits and ceiling girders. Was wiring up a small inverter when my hand slipped on my lineman's pliers and BAM. Bounced me about a dozen times from the girders to the concrete ceiling two foot above me. Damned if I didn't do it again a couple hours later wiring up a transformer in a light in one of the offices, only that one didn't bounce me, just grabbed hold and tried to kill me. Fortunately my journeyman knocked me off the ladder onto the secretary's desk. That stuff hurts like hell. I would much rather be tagged by 110 or 220 AC than that dang DC stuff.
    Um... Is it not SOP in such situations to disconnect the power BEFORE servicing stuff?


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