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CC a BUG while OC main question?

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Hevymetal

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Have a couple questions about carrying a concealed BUG while OCing my main. Since I got my new carry gun the old one has become my BUG and I started carrying it as such.

If I am stopped by a LEO (outside my vehicle) who asks for my ID or CPL can I still refuse or am I forced to show my ID and CPL because I have one concealed, knowing full well I was stopped only because of my OC?

All guns must be OCed in a CFZ correct? (BUG is usually carried in the small of my back and is difficult to unconceal)

Any issues or potential problems you are aware of carrying OC and CC at the same time?

Thanks for the insight
Hevy
 
griffin

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You are CCing, must disclose. You can always OC your BUG on your weak side. Some people OC two pistols.
 
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griffin said:
You are CCing, must disclose. You can always OC your BUG on your weak side. Some people OC two pistols.
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If you are being lawfully detained you must disclose. A casual contact is not a detainment and disclosure is not required. Always best to ask if you are free to go. Of course better safe than sorry.
 
cmdr_iceman71

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This is why I carry in a configuration where both my pistols are OWB so that I don't have to disclose when I am stopped nor think about whether I am in violation of carrying concealed in a PFZ.

And yes, as long as you are carrying a concealed pistol you have a duty to disclose, the reasoning for the stop becomes immaterial.
 
Glock9mmOldStyle

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cmdr_iceman71 said:
This is why I carry in a configuration where both my pistols are OWB so that I don't have to disclose when I am stopped nor think about whether I am in violation of carrying concealed in a PFZ.

And yes, as long as you are carrying a concealed pistol you have a duty to disclose, the reasoning for the stop becomes immaterial.
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^^^
Yep - that. Best way to stay out of the LEIN system is to make it as difficult as possible for them to unlawfully run/enter you into it.

Giving up civil rights for security is a certain way to lose both! :eek:
 
Glock9mmOldStyle

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stainless1911 said:
From now on, Im not carrying ID at all unless Im driving.
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Well this is one approach, and not a bad idea per se' . There is atleast one MI PD that I know of that will confiscate your weapon, then call out the name of the registered owner, if you don't step forward, with ID off it goes with them. Never mind as a CPL holder you can carry OPENLY any legally registered pistol with the owners permission.


Giving up civil rights for security is a certain way to lose both! :eek:
 
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Glock9mmOldStyle said:
Well this is one approach, and not a bad idea per se' . There is atleast one MI PD that I know of that will confiscate your weapon, then call out the name of the registered owner, if you don't step forward, with ID off it goes with them. Never mind as a CPL holder you can carry OPENLY any legally registered pistol with the owners permission.


Giving up civil rights for security is a certain way to lose both! :eek:
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wow hes good lol..
 
Glock9mmOldStyle

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rvd4now said:
wow hes good lol..
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Yep, he's one of the more creative criminals I have had the displeasure of meeting. A SGT. No less with the same name of a recent two term president (not) clinton. Works for a crappy city that rhymes with the word foreign. Which is exactly where he and his ilk should be ..... back in the USSR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh8wgBzVyNg&feature=related

Giving up civil rights for security is a certain way to lose both! :eek:
 
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