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Challenge to the "lesser of two evils" crowd

Malcolm

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Does anyone actually like Romney?

Seriously, I know a lot of people that don't like the president and will vote for Romney, but I don't know anyone voting for Romney because they like Romney. WTF? Is this the epitome of our political system. Lesser of two evils junk. If your headed for a cliff, does it matter if your going fast or going slow? if you don't turn the wheel at some point, your in for a fall.

So my point is for Romney and Obama voters, does anyone BELIEVE in these guys? or do they just not like the other guy? From my personal observations, its always the lesser EVIL, except for Paulites. They are true believers, which is a nice feeling I suppose. To have BELIEF in a politician.

Oh, if there are any Romneyites reading this, I just posted a thread in the social lounge you might want to check out.
 

twoskinsonemanns

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This is closer to the truth than I'm comfortable with:
The choice may just be an allusion. The ultimate goal is control.

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John Jackson: "It's time someone had the courage to stand up and say: I'm against those things that everybody hates."
Jack Johnson: "Now, I respect my opponent. I think he's a good man. But quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said."
John Jackson: "I say your three cent titanium tax goes too far."
Jack Johnson: "And I say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too far enough."
 

Daylen

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This is closer to the truth than I'm comfortable with:
The choice may just be an allusion. The ultimate goal is control.

images.jpg

John Jackson: "It's time someone had the courage to stand up and say: I'm against those things that everybody hates."
Jack Johnson: "Now, I respect my opponent. I think he's a good man. But quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said."
John Jackson: "I say your three cent titanium tax goes too far."
Jack Johnson: "And I say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too far enough."

That came from the 04' election where it was hard to point out any real difference between the candidates. At least with Obama and Romney one is a capitalist and the other a Marxist.
 

twoskinsonemanns

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That came from the 04' election where it was hard to point out any real difference between the candidates. At least with Obama and Romney one is a capitalist and the other a Marxist.

It came from a Futurama episode aired in 1999.
 

ManInBlack

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That came from the 04' election where it was hard to point out any real difference between the candidates. At least with Obama and Romney one is a capitalist and the other a Marxist.

lol...

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http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/12/nation/la-na-bain-subsidies-20120113
[h=1]Mitt Romney no stranger to tax breaks, subsidies[/h]
[h=2]Bain Capital profited from a steel company that got them, and he used them to attract business when he governed Massachusetts[/h]
January 12, 2012|By Matea Gold, Melanie Mason and Tom Hamburger, Washington Bureau



Reporting from Washington — As Mitt Romney defends his record running a private equity firm, he frequently points to a fast-growing Indiana steel company, financed in part by Bain Capital, that now employs 6,000 workers.
What Romney doesn't mention is that Steel Dynamics also received generous tax breaks and other subsidies provided by the state of Indiana and the residents of DeKalb County, where the company's first mill was built.

Do yourself and everyone else a favor and quit drinking the elephant piss-flavored Kool-aid.
 

()pen(arry

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This really isn't challenging. Why are people debating what these two man "are"? They're both self-serving. That's what they are. There's no debate to be had, here; there's no other label that accurately applies. Both men are self-serving.

And damn fools will vote for them.
 

Animus

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Seriously? The majority of what he does is "compromise", which to him seems to mean to do what the Republicans want. Even if he were a real progressive or a socialist, he's too spineless and incompetent to accomplish anything. You guys are afraid of him? That's like being afraid of the cowardly lion.
 

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I'm merely asking what facts or background led you to the opinion he is not a socialist.

To ad to your points.

In my opinion he is a socialist, but so is Romney.

I like how Ludwig Von Mises put it in his book Omnipotent Government. When you legislate enough laws and rules that effectively tell a private person / business what they can do or can't do with their business/property you have become socialist. Of course statist judges, have continually ruled in favor of these intrusion by changing the definition of words in the constitution and relying on case law instead of constitutional law.
 

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That came from the 04' election where it was hard to point out any real difference between the candidates. At least with Obama and Romney one is a capitalist and the other a Marxist.


Actually, you are incorrect on BOTH points. They are BOTH oligarchs, and Fabian Socialists.

A vote for Romney IS a vote for Obama, because they are the same person--sociopathic congenital liars who will do ANYTHING their puppet masters tell them.

Both are bought and paid for by the same people--Goldman Sachs, Citi, JP Morgan and Monsanto.

They are both pro gun control, pro big government, pro destruction of the middle class, pro carbon tax and pro "ruling elite".

The ONLY difference is that Romney will continue the slow, systematic dissolution of our Constitution over the next 4-8 years if he is elected, but Obama will switch into high gear and use his second term to fast-track the rape and pillage of America for his puppet masters.

A Romney term (or two) will just be more slow, quiet, incremental chipping away at rights and sovereignty, and will lull the Sheeple into a future of abject slavery and third-world poverty and despair in the US.

But Obama and his cadre of sociopaths are so brazen, so full of hubris, and so determined to destroy the US so that they can hand it to their masters like a cat leaving a dead mouse on it's owners doorstep, that they will, if given a second term, take the gloves and masks off, and show their true, blood-thirsty, freedom-hating colors. They will stage massive false-flag events resulting in not only the deaths of thousands more innocents, but then USE those events to lock down the entire US like Alcatraz. A second Obama term will be like 911, Katrina, OKC, Gitmo, and The USS Cole all rolled into one steaming pile of death, destruction, torture, lies, and mayhem--all of which will be perpetrated by the "government" AGAINST the We the People.

Truth be told, a second Obama term may be the best thing for Freedom and Liberty that could happen to the US. It would not be pretty, and MILLIONS of people will probably be killed, but once the "gloves come off" of this cabal of sociopaths and they show their true stripes, I think that even the most fluoride- and Prozac-addled zombies will realize what the REAL score is, and the "S" may very well "HTF"...

"Hitting the reset button" is never a desirable method of socio-political change, but seeing as how the current administration seems to be working diligently on pushing the American People into a corner, it looks like they actually WANT a civil war, and may very well get it if they follow their Puppet Master's plans through...

OTOH, a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Ron Paul. Everyone can see his record. Everyone knows he is a patriot, a Constitutionalist, and that he stands for Freedom, Liberty, and bringing the US back to it's previous status of the Best Place on Earth to Live.

And you can leave the polling place with a clear conscious, knowing that you voted for the BEST of all possible choices, not the "lesser of two evils".

Don't support evil--even if it is a "lesser" kind of evil...



RON PAUL - 2012
Any other vote is a vote for serfdom.

 
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Animus

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Which policies, specifically? It's a sincere question.

And I consider Fox, MSNBC, CNN and all the others to be glorified Twitter accounts. I don't twitter.

Try clicking the link. It's actually an AP article that's just hosted on Fox's site. You can tell they had nothing to do with writing it because otherwise it would've tried to confirm the rumors.
 

()pen(arry

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Huh, even an article on Faux News' website agrees.

Try clicking the link. It's actually an AP article that's just hosted on Fox's site. You can tell they had nothing to do with writing it because otherwise it would've tried to confirm the rumors.

You raised the Fox News specter, even going so far as to emphasize it with a "clever" misspelling. You don't now get to down-play it. You can't eat your cake and have it, too.
 

PistolPackingMomma

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Try clicking the link. It's actually an AP article that's just hosted on Fox's site. You can tell they had nothing to do with writing it because otherwise it would've tried to confirm the rumors.

I want to hear from you about which exact policies lead you to feel he is not socialist. Have you actually studied any of his policies or are you just parroting what you read from AP/Faux News? I'm asking you to actually dig a little deeper into what you say you believe; examine it and share with the class to see if you can...educate...the rest of us.
 

Animus

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You raised the Fox News specter, even going so far as to emphasize it with a "clever" misspelling. You don't now get to down-play it. You can't eat your cake and have it, too.

I don't know what you're talking about. I just found it odd that they would host an article saying Obama isn't a socialist.

I want to hear from you about which exact policies lead you to feel he is not socialist. Have you actually studied any of his policies or are you just parroting what you read from AP/Faux News? I'm asking you to actually dig a little deeper into what you say you believe; examine it and share with the class to see if you can...educate...the rest of us.

All of them. Not a single thing he's ever done or said even remotely resembles any known forms of socialism. As a former socialist myself, I think I should know the difference.
 
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