I have to wonder if Officers are always notified about a CHP when they stop someone.
The reason I wonder is that my wife is always getting pulled over. She never gets tickets, but she gets pulled.
Yesterday she was pulled over for expired tags. She didn't believe it and the cop checked DMV. Sure enough dead. He gave her a warning but never asked about a gun and they never do.
She didn't have a gun but I had left 4 of them including my ultra evil black shotgun, in her car.
It just makes me wonder what the key to notification is.
OC related because it involved my OC guns
My wife was puller over a few months ago and I was in the passenger seat (vehicle registered in my name. The State Trooper walked back with my wifes license on my side and asked if I was Doug xxxxxx and I verified yes, his next question was "do you have your gun on you?". He stated that my CHP came up with the vehicle registration.
Maybe the Staties are trained to "push the extra button."
I have a CHP and was pulled over a year or two ago for expired tags by Chesterfield County. Had sent the money but not applied the new stickers.
He was obviously a trainee officer. I had an empty holster on the seat also. No mention of firearms was ever made. fwiw
Last edited by riverrat10k; 05-11-2012 at 03:22 PM.
I ride with my best friend all the time, a deputy, everytime he runs a DL, it automatically comes up. The dispatcher gives the info that comes, and always states, holder also has a CHP, he never request to know, it just comes back. Maybe it is a different policy per department.
I was pulled over in a speed trap about three years ago. After going through all the normal process and as the officer (Hampton) was handing me my ticket he asked if I was had my concealed handgun on my. I answered yes. He didn't ask to see my CHP though and simply said have a nice day. (after a ticket it is kind of hard to HAVE a nice day though) :-(
A few months later I received a ticket from a VA Beach officer (really these were/are the only two I have ever received in my life) and he never mentioned anything about my CHP (or any of the bumper stickers etc). He was more of a sour puss too although I wasn't any better at the time.
"Cogito, ergo armatum sum: I think, therefore I am armed."
NRA Certified Range Safety Officer
I also know that a CHP comes up very clearly and emphasized on the in car terminal of Fairfax Sheriff's cars when such information is available in the system. A deputy I know demonstrated that to me a few years ago.
This must be different in MD...
I got busted for expired tags a few weeks ago (paperwork/change-of-address SNAFU with NC). Despite the fact that I had VCDL and "GSL" magnets on my vehicle, and THREE different CHPs (NC, PA, UT), the MoCo PD officer never asked me if I had any "weapons" in the car, and didn't even mention my permits.
Which is interesting, considering the BPD's (working with WRTAC) recently-issued directive that ANY vehicle with out-of-state tags (especially from NC, V or WV) and "pro-2A" stickers should be treated as a "potential high threat to officer safety"...
Last edited by Dreamer; 05-11-2012 at 10:23 PM.
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I was pulled over twice in a month with a CHP. I was OCing both times and had a second cop approach passenger side both times with not so much as a mention about my firearm. I was quite impressed with the lack of B.S. (both times were for a expired inspection I was still working on items)
"Yes, I am carrying a loaded firearm. Why aren't you? "
For instance, if I go to VA with a PA LTCF, I doubt the VA officer would be able to see it on his computer and dispatch wouldn't probably know.
You would think that when a state has reciprocity, they would be linked. But I dont think its so.
Last edited by Sig229; 05-12-2012 at 12:02 AM.
"Let your gun be your constant companion during your walks" ~Thomas Jefferson
By answering his question you're training him to violate 4A rights. You could have said:
1. Officer am I required to identify myself to you? If so what is your reasonable suspicion I've committed a criminal offense?
2. Officer, I am a law-abiding citizen and I desire to remain silent.
IANAL, but IMO, he caught you off guard and made you give up info which he had no right to ask.
A firearm is a tool of convenience, not effectiveness - Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch
I have been pulled over a lot in NOVA, Richmond and places in between. I have a CHP and have never been asked if I have a firearm on me. I have noted a distinct change in the posture of some police when they get both of my hands in view.
I really hate to get into arguments, or try to sound like a know it all, but a lot of people depend on this site for correct information. CHP info does NOT come back with license plate info unless they run criminal back ground check on the registered owner. It only comes up automatically with DL. I am standing here with a Deputy from Dickenson County Sheriffs office, and a Virginia State Trooper both of whom are very big OC supporters and VCDL supporters.