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    Wis. officials say locals can ban weapons at polls

    http://fox6now.com/2012/05/14/wis-of...pons-at-polls/

    And to think, state preemption truly means nothing. We need to strengthen it so these idiots are unable to infringe upon our rights.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    GAB attorney Mike Haas wrote in a memo he prepared for Tuesday’s board meeting that elections appear to qualify as special events under the law, which allows special event organizers — in this case, local election officials — to ban weapons as long as they post signs at every entrance stating as much.
    Elections, the foundation of our democrapcy, as special events, what will they think of next?

    The legislature must hwack this mole too, soon! Don't be the test case.

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    How do you take this out of context?

    943.13 (1e) (h) “Special event” means an event that is open to the public, is for a duration of not more than 3 weeks, and either has designated entrances to and from the event that are locked when the event is closed or requires an admission.
    So they are doing a poll tax?!
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    One thing about smaller city and town officials they can be Influenced a lot easier then bigger goverment bodies. 10 to 20 people showing up at the annual meeting could pass their own resolution.

    A vist to the Mayors office or town board member can have a big effect. Or running for the board can work even better. Some times these positions go begging to be filled.

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    943.13 (1e) (h) “Special event” means an event that is open to the public, ...
    Voter ID! The public contains others than enfranchised electors, like "illegals", foreigners unable to vote, felons disbarred their rights.

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    Nothing surprising here, I knew they were going to use and abuse the "Special Event" clause the moment I seen it in the bill.

    Well at least we will be safe now, I mean we just had a primary and there are over 100,000 people with licenses and you know a bunch voted armed, just look at all the problems and mayhem that ensued............. oh wait, nothing like usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason in WI View Post
    Nothing surprising here, I knew they were going to use and abuse the "Special Event" clause the moment I seen it in the bill.

    Well at least we will be safe now, I mean we just had a primary and there are over 100,000 people with licenses and you know a bunch voted armed, just look at all the problems and mayhem that ensued............. oh wait, nothing like usual.

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    Yep, I was one of those armed voters! "Nothing to see here....move along".
    “The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the People of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” -- Samuel Adams

    “Today, we need a nation of Minutemen. Citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.”

    —John F. Kennedy

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    sounds like grounds for a civil suite
    Luke 22:36 ; 36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    "guns are like a Parachute, if you don't have one when you need it, you will not need one again"
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    i you call a CHP a CCW then you are really stupid. period.

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    http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...?mode=comments

    mailto://govgeneral@wisconsin.gov
    Dear Governor Walker,

    Please take control of your bureaucrats, specifically the GAB for
    deciding that "elections appear to qualify as special events under the
    law, which allows special event organizers — in this case, local
    election officials — to ban weapons..."

    The statute relies on the definition, (§ 943.13(1e)(h)) “Special event”
    means an event that is open to the public, ... An election open to the
    public would be open to "illegals", foreign visitors, disenfranchised
    felons, citizens not of voting age, et cetera.
    Last edited by Herr Heckler Koch; 05-14-2012 at 05:03 PM.

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    If the polling place isn't prohibited by statute it should be open to people peacefully exercising any Constitutionally-protected right.

    For smaller towns, speak up or get elected so you can change things.
    For larger cities vote absentee. Or I suppose you could stand just outside the door & make them bring you a ballot, etc. Speaking up against the PTB isn't as effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    http://fox6now.com/2012/05/14/wis-of...pons-at-polls/

    And to think, state preemption truly means nothing. We need to strengthen it so these idiots are unable to infringe upon our rights.
    :blink: They don't even need the 'special event' language to be able to post, all they have to do is put up a sign, not sure where this rocket scientist did his learnin'.


    In Elkhorn, the city has decided not to post ANY of their buildings, including the park district building where I open carry and vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    :blink: They don't even need the 'special event' language to be able to post, all they have to do is put up a sign, not sure where this rocket scientist did his learnin'.


    In Elkhorn, the city has decided not to post ANY of their buildings, including the park district building where I open carry and vote.
    Since GAB is a government agency, and therefore never worked a real day in their career, they need to look busy since they aren't verifying signatures, or voter ballots, or anything else for that matter.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    Why isn't prohibiting LAC electors at a poll damned as voter suppression like Voter ID?

    http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-...ay/25/treason/

    We’ve heard the argument for some time now that voter ID laws are raaaaacist. But now, not only are these laws racist but they are treasonous!

    Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat (duh), says that Republicans are pushing voter ID laws because they don’t have winning issues and are, instead, relying on changing the rules of the game. But then she goes on to say, “Efforts to suppress voting are not just selfish, there not just short-sighted. Voter restriction laws, that lead to an outcome based upon process instead upon merit, might be labeled – and I imagine even by our founding fathers – as treasonous.”

    You could fill volumes with the idiotic musings of Granholm. The ONLY way a voter ID law could be voter “suppression” is if you believe that turning people away from the polls who are not legally entitled to cast a ballot fits the definition of voter suppression. So what is the issue here. The facts show that most people who cast illegal ballots cast them for Democrats. Let’s face it; those who break laws are, as a whole, much more likely to vote Democrat than Republican. Yeah .... I’m saying that Republicans are more honorable than Democrats --- deal with it --- and Democrats don’t like you keeping their illegal voters from casting their votes.

    There you have it, folks. Proving that you are who you say you are in order to partake in the privilege of voting is treason. Got it?

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    i think it is terrible that Polish people will be denied weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    i think it is terrible that Polish people will be denied weapons.
    They put up a heck of a fight against the Germans and Russians in WWII.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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