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    DC: Injured vetís guns stolen by Metro Police -- will NOT return them

    Injustice? You decide:

    Injured vetís guns stolen by D.C. Police
    By Emily Miller

    After being injured on his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, Lt. Augustine Kim spent the night in a D.C. jail for possessing unregistered guns.

    After being pulled over, handcuffed, arrested, thrown in jail overnight, his guns were confiscated by the city.

    In the end, the platoon leader felt forced to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge, which was later dismissed, but the District still refuses to return to him $10,000 worth of firearms and parts. The national guardsman will deploy to Kosovo this summer.

    Mr. Kim, an M1A1 Abrams main battle tank platoon leader, was the liaison officer to a specialized unit in Afghanistan, when he was injured in a vehicle crash. He broke multiple bones on the left side of his face and shattered his right arm. He was medivaced to Germany, where he spent two weeks getting treatment. He then spent three months in and out of the hospital at Walter Reed to get necessary facial surgery to fix his cracked lower orbit.

    Before deploying, the soldier had taken his gun collection to his parentsí house in New Jersey for safe storage. At the end of his recovery, he drove to the Garden State to pick up the supply and transport it to his home in Charleston.

    He had one Colt Carbine AR15 rifle 6920 5.56/.223, a Beretta 92S in 9mm, a custom Springfield Armory 1911 in .45 caliber. The national guardsmanís hobby is building and working on 1911 models, so he had spare parts, including a frame, barrel and upper receiver.

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    A valiant soldier who proudly serves our country is being treated like a criminal by the District. The nation owes him gratitude, not harassment for safely transporting guns through the nationís capital. The lieutenantís firearms should be returned to him by overnight express -- with a note of apology.

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    I sent a scathing email to the link suggested by Phil in his VCDL alert. This one really got my dander up.
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    It is not that hard to avoid DC. Leave guns in safe storage until DC business is complete.
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    Did nobody else notice that he stopped in DC to see a doctor at Walter Reed, and thus lost the protection of FOPA?

    Now, since the prosecutor pleaded the multiple felonies down to a single misdemeanor and then dismissed it the question of continuing seizure, amounting to confiscation, becomes problematic for reasons that both the blogoverse and MSM seem to be either avoiding or ignoring - that level of crime do not allow confiscation pending resolution of the charge.

    Now you can be bent out of shape for the appropriate reason.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    It is not that hard to avoid DC. Leave guns in safe storage until DC business is complete.
    $10,000 worth? And where might one find such storage for a day or three while just passing through?

    Bottom line: His right to keep and bear arms was infringed when he was arrested by the D.C. (Dirty Cop) Police, and they're still being infringed upon with their refusal to return his rightful property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Did nobody else notice that he stopped in DC to see a doctor at Walter Reed, and thus lost the protection of FOPA?

    Now, since the prosecutor pleaded the multiple felonies down to a single misdemeanor and then dismissed it the question of continuing seizure, amounting to confiscation, becomes problematic for reasons that both the blogoverse and MSM seem to be either avoiding or ignoring - that level of crime do not allow confiscation pending resolution of the charge.

    Now you can be bent out of shape for the appropriate reason.

    stay safe.
    Yes I did. But what frosts me is the fact that he has not been able to reclaim his property. The DC police are raft with problems and ineptitude when it comes to firearms. Emily Miller has turned up a plethora of festering puss in that organization with her series in the Washington Times.
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    SouthernBoy,

    I agree with you completely. I just wish folks would be outraged about the 4th Amendment violations, as opposed to claiming his 2A right are/were violated.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    ... I just wish folks would be outraged about the 4th Amendment violations, as opposed to claiming his 2A right are/were violated.
    Folks should be outraged by any civil rights violations. Unfortunately some regard that as the the exclusive purview of the hated American Civil Liberties Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    SouthernBoy,

    I agree with you completely. I just wish folks would be outraged about the 4th Amendment violations, as opposed to claiming his 2A right are/were violated.

    stay safe.
    I'll stand with you on that one, however I would include the Second Amendment and the Fifth Amendment with this specific issue.
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    This has NRA written all over it.

    What a bunch of hog wash..How did they even get in his car? I bet they asked if he had firearms. Stories like this make me glad I live in AZ. We have enough of our own problems, but not those kind of problems. between DC and NY city (and state) good luck. Good to hear the prosecutor cut the charge down though. It appears to be very respectful to that vet. My best wishes on getting that gear back.
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    Am I the only one getting sick of hearing about how someone is a vet or active duty or other military when it has nothing to do with the article? I don't like the implication that there should be outrage if a vet is treated badly, but it doesn't matter if other citizens rights are trampled.
    Don't believe any facts that I say! This is the internet and it is filled with lies and untruth. I invite you to look up for yourself the basic facts that my arguments might be based upon. This way we can have a discussion where logic and hints on where to find information are what is brought to the forum and people look up and verify facts for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    Am I the only one getting sick of hearing about how someone is a vet or active duty or other military when it has nothing to do with the article? I don't like the implication that there should be outrage if a vet is treated badly, but it doesn't matter if other citizens rights are trampled.
    I consider it is punctuation. The fact that he was a vet may help to drive the point but I do agree that usurpations against any citizen exercising his rights is an injustice. The fact that DC is what it is to me is disgusting and I avoid that cesspool like the plague. It is a welfare city* run by welfare minded scum.


    * read that as literal and otherwise with the otherwise being a good deal of the city is rented by the federal government, ergo the term federal city.
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    Wouldn't this young man be able to file a civil suit against the DC police Dept? Or is there law on the books there that allows them to keep confiscated weapons even without a conviction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    Am I the only one getting sick of hearing about how someone is a vet or active duty or other military when it has nothing to do with the article? I don't like the implication that there should be outrage if a vet is treated badly, but it doesn't matter if other citizens rights are trampled.
    The way I've always taken these "did X to vet" things was that the following was what they were trying to imply: "Look at what <insert offender here> did to the vet. If they're willing to do X to a vet (who the general public holds as having made sacrifices to defend us and our freedoms) then imagine what they would do to a "regular" citizen. We can't stand for this!"

    So it's not as much about the fact that the vet was treated badly, but rather if they are willing to treat a vet like that then imagine how much worse they are willing to treat others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aknazer View Post
    The way I've always taken these "did X to vet" things was that the following was what they were trying to imply: "Look at what <insert offender here> did to the vet. If they're willing to do X to a vet (who the general public holds as having made sacrifices to defend us and our freedoms) then imagine what they would do to a "regular" citizen. We can't stand for this!"

    So it's not as much about the fact that the vet was treated badly, but rather if they are willing to treat a vet like that then imagine how much worse they are willing to treat others.
    well put. this is exactly how I see it.
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    [QUOTE=Aknazer;1768097If they're willing to do X to a vet (who the general public holds as having made sacrifices to defend us and our freedoms) then imagine what they would do to a "regular" citizen. We can't stand for this!"[/QUOTE]

    + 1. great observation

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    Did the Constitution recently get voided in D.C.? Did we miss a memo?

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