this thread in the VA sub-forum is lately discussing display, produce and surrender
We require judicial notice of the ordinariness of gun carry by law abiding persons.
How might a cop determine lawful possession during such detention and temporary questioning (§968.24) that shall be conducted in the vicinity where the person was stopped.
Seizure without arrest is not a statutory option.
Originally Posted by Wisc. Stats.
"The privilege against self-incrimination is neither accorded to the passive resistant, nor the person who is ignorant of his rights, nor to one indifferent thereto. It is a fighting clause. Its benefits can be retained only by sustained combat. It cannot be claimed by an attorney or solicitor. It is valid only when insisted upon by a belligerent claimant in person." US v Johnson, 76 F. Supp 538.
"The privilege against self-incrimination is neither accorded to the passive resistant, not
to the person who is ignorant of his rights, nor to one who is indifferent thereto. It is a
FIGHTING clause. It's benefits can be retained only by sustained COMBAT. It cannot be
claimed by attorney or solicitor. It is valid only when insisted upon by a BELLIGERENT
claimant in person." McAlister vs. Henkle, 201 U.S. 90, 26 S.Ct. 385, 50 L. Ed. 671;
See the reoccurring wording...you want a right, you have to fight for it.
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if asked to exit a vehicle, immediately lock the doors, and place the keys in your pocket, this removes "Immediately accessible" from the equation, and a non-consensual search is going to be awfully damn difficult for them to justify.
If the vehicle doors are left unlocked, or windows down, a cop can and will most likely justify their illegal search as making sure no weapons were 'Immediately accessible"
If the cop starts busting your chops about locking the car, just tell him it is habit, and do not, absolutely do not allow him to search for any reason whatsoever.
Can anyone cite the case law where it states fighting to protect your rights to not be violated is encouraged, because the court stated that simply being passive is the same as waiving your rights.
So, fight tooth and nail to protect your rights, be belligerent, because most likely the cop is doing the same already to try and bully you into submission.
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