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    Escorted out while open carrying in Walmart in Danville.

    The manager escorted me to the door after I made my purchase and told me it was standard policy now.

    Oh yeah, I bought my first AR-15 today while shopping at Walmart. I told the manager that it was ironic that she had to escort me out with my new purchase while I was open carrying my pistol!

    I picked up a DPMS Panther Sportical. My first Evil Black Rifle!!
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    Congrats on your first of many EBR's. *LOL*

    As for being escorted, I assume that that was because of the rifle purchase and not due to your OC. They, as well as K-Mart, escort new weapon purchases to the front door, they always have ever since my Dad bought me my first pistol many, many years ago.
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    Congrats on the new EBR.

    Being escorted is nothing new. It's been Wal-Mart's policy for many years, probably 20 or more. Yes, it's silly since you were OCing at the time, but I read one account 15+ years ago from a fellow who was also escorted out by the manager, who placed the shotgun in the purchaser's trunk and then closed it.

    The manager was a bit sheepish about it, since it was the trunk of a police cruiser, and the purchaser was an officer in uniform, but that was the policy.

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    I was expecting to be escorted out with my new purchase. At least they let me buy a box of ammo with it. I just wanted to tie in open carry and my first EBR purchase.

    I asked the cashier if they called in every 4473 or would they use a CCDW to bypass the phone call. She told me that pursuant with her being in the employ of Walmart, she was required to call in every 4473. Seems like a waste of time to me, but to each their own.

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    yeah that is company policy on a weapons purchase, was like that when i worked there in the 90's customer always got an escort to the door. manager will get in hot water if they don't

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    Wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by self preservation View Post
    Wonder why?
    I am trying to find the news article, a few years back it seems I can remember someone purchasing a firearm and ammo at walmart right before open firing. I would asssume this policy has been in place to protect just that. Problem is that it is totally irrational considering they walk you out with the new one but allow someone to open carry in wal mart anyday with the one they already have on the persons before even walking into the door. I guess it is one of those corporate loopholes. I dont know. But I will say this, I was in a wal-mart in Louisville once, open carrying my 9mm and purchased 9mm ammo while there. The "policy" was for him to walk the ammo to the front of the store and deliver it to a cashier, but there as no problems other than that.

    I have never had any problems at all with wal-mart and as far as I know they welcome OC when the law allows it. When I first read the title to this post I was almost outraged, it reads like they escorted the OP out for an OC. BTW I want to see a wal-mart that sells AR15's. The ones around me definately dont carry those. Nice job! and Nice piece!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kywildcat581 View Post
    I am trying to find the news article, a few years back it seems I can remember someone purchasing a firearm and ammo at walmart right before open firing. I would asssume this policy has been in place to protect just that. Problem is that it is totally irrational considering they walk you out with the new one but allow someone to open carry in wal mart anyday with the one they already have on the persons before even walking into the door. I guess it is one of those corporate loopholes. I dont know. But I will say this, I was in a wal-mart in Louisville once, open carrying my 9mm and purchased 9mm ammo while there. The "policy" was for him to walk the ammo to the front of the store and deliver it to a cashier, but there as no problems other than that.

    I have never had any problems at all with wal-mart and as far as I know they welcome OC when the law allows it. When I first read the title to this post I was almost outraged, it reads like they escorted the OP out for an OC. BTW I want to see a wal-mart that sells AR15's. The ones around me definately dont carry those. Nice job! and Nice piece!
    I was mad too because I thought the same thing about him being escorted out. Anyhow, lets say if I was not OC'ing in walmart, but I bought a rifle, shot gun, sling shot..whatever, they walk my new gun and ammo to the car for "safety" for fear that I will load up right there in the store and start blasting away.........what would keep a person from loading up in the car once they had brought your new purchase out and walking right back in??? I see their intentions with this but they are only fooling themselves with this "safety" policy.
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    The manager didn't walk me all the way to my car. She walked me to the front door, handed me the box and told me to have a nice day.

    I don't know why they have this policy. It seems silly.

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    Well lets not give them too many ideas, but I am thinking the ammo I bought was sent to the cashier to eliminate theft, sinc ammo boxes are so easily opened. But yeah the false sense of security is there for them when they carry it up front. Not sure that I really see a reason for it, but it is what it is. Sadly though the only real issue i had from walmart was from another customer. But that's another thread.. funny story though.

    I am beating my brains out tying to put logic in the policy to escort. Maybe this policy adapted when walmart carried hand guns to prevent theft? Just never died? And still practiced? That would be my only sensible reason I can think of

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    Quote Originally Posted by kywildcat581 View Post
    Well lets not give them too many ideas, but I am thinking the ammo I bought was sent to the cashier to eliminate theft, sinc ammo boxes are so easily opened. But yeah the false sense of security is there for them when they carry it up front. Not sure that I really see a reason for it, but it is what it is. Sadly though the only real issue i had from walmart was from another customer. But that's another thread.. funny story though.

    I am beating my brains out tying to put logic in the policy to escort. Maybe this policy adapted when walmart carried hand guns to prevent theft? Just never died? And still practiced? That would be my only sensible reason I can think of
    If I had to guess I would say that this policy is like many policies and laws.....passed on ignorance and fear. But I can see the shoplifting concern...but if that were the reason behind the escort policy it looks like everything the size of or smaller than a box of ammo would need to be escorted. At any cost I can live with their escort policy. Not a huge deal I dont guess. Just kinda weird.
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    And no disrespect toward fib_78, but the title of your thread is a little misleading at first glance.
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    It can all be explained in one word ... Legal department!

    There have been a couple of incidences in my area where people have gone into an indoor shooting range, rented a handgun and committed suicide. I go to a different range that, now, has a stipulation that you cannot rent a gun and shoot on the range unless you bring your own gun or are accompanied by someone. I can not see how that was going to stop someone committing suicide but I'm sure, in some lawyers infinite wisdom, that will curb all suicide attempts. Maybe WM is using the same lawyer? I guess it's not a bad thing ... I'd feel so much safer having an escort just knowing that they will prevent someone from taking my newly prized possession from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by self preservation View Post
    And no disrespect toward fib_78, but the title of your thread is a little misleading at first glance.
    I know.

    It was intentional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flb_78 View Post
    I know.

    It was intentional.
    Oh I see...well, it got me to look at it quick,fast and in a hurry...So good job
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    Quote Originally Posted by flb_78 View Post
    I was expecting to be escorted out with my new purchase. At least they let me buy a box of ammo with it. I just wanted to tie in open carry and my first EBR purchase.

    I asked the cashier if they called in every 4473 or would they use a CCDW to bypass the phone call. She told me that pursuant with her being in the employ of Walmart, she was required to call in every 4473. Seems like a waste of time to me, but to each their own.
    Being that it's Wal Mart, I'm not sure that they know that they don't have to call them in like that if the buyer has a CCDW. Most gun shops, being that that's their bread and butter are well aware of this fact but they can still choose to call it in just the same, it's left up to the individual stores/shops as far as I'm aware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kywildcat581 View Post
    I was in a wal-mart in Louisville once, open carrying my 9mm and purchased 9mm ammo while there. The "policy" was for him to walk the ammo to the front of the store and deliver it to a cashier, but there as no problems other than that.

    I have never had any problems at all with wal-mart and as far as I know they welcome OC when the law allows it. When I first read the title to this post I was almost outraged, it reads like they escorted the OP out for an OC. BTW I want to see a wal-mart that sells AR15's. The ones around me definately dont carry those. Nice job! and Nice piece!
    Walking the ammo to the front might have something slightly to do with the fact that you were carrying but I'm guessing it's as much, if not more, about shoplifting. Remember, they also walk video games to the front and leave it with the cashier as well, unless you pay for it in it's respective department.

    I know that I've bought ammo at one of my local Wal Mart's and after I paid for it back in sporting goods, they never even attempt to ecort it or me. *LOL* I must just have one of those "honest faces". *LOL*

    As for the AR-15's, I know that at least one of my local WM's sell them. I know that they carry a Rock River Arms/Magpul MOE version in black & woodland style camo, they also had Bushmaster version as well. They had one or 2 off brands in addition. All of the one's I've seen them carry are standard, non-quad rail frontends though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnhooked View Post
    It can all be explained in one word ... Legal department!

    There have been a couple of incidences in my area where people have gone into an indoor shooting range, rented a handgun and committed suicide. I go to a different range that, now, has a stipulation that you cannot rent a gun and shoot on the range unless you bring your own gun or are accompanied by someone. I can not see how that was going to stop someone committing suicide but I'm sure, in some lawyers infinite wisdom, that will curb all suicide attempts. Maybe WM is using the same lawyer? I guess it's not a bad thing ... I'd feel so much safer having an escort just knowing that they will prevent someone from taking my newly prized possession from me.
    While I DO NOT agree with that policy at sone of the gun ranges, I do understand their train of thought. They either see or feel that if they do not rent pistols to shoot at their ranges, then they're not responsible if someone brings in their own and then commits suicide on their range. Granted, I sure would not want to be an lawyer that was trying to sell that concept. I will say this though, if someone already has their own weapon, they are definitely not as likely to go to a range to commit suicide.

    The not gun rental concept is bad though because alot of folks go to these ranges to try out different types of guns to see what they want to purchase. Over the past few months, I've been to the range with a couple of folks to have them try out different pistols before they settled on what they wanted. If that range had not had guns for rent then they would've never had the chance to try out different guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neuroblades View Post
    The not gun rental concept is bad though because alot of folks go to these ranges to try out different types of guns to see what they want to purchase. Over the past few months, I've been to the range with a couple of folks to have them try out different pistols before they settled on what they wanted. If that range had not had guns for rent then they would've never had the chance to try out different guns.
    That's kind of my story so I went to a different range and found a handgun that wanted to go home with me, a FNX-9, but I wanted the FNP-9 and they didn't have one so I bought it off of Gunbroker. The range I was going to, just because it's close to home, had one but it was the principle of the thing. I've bought a couple of rifles since but, again, not from them and now I go to an outdoor shooting range which I joined. Much more professional and I feel a lot safer. I'm looking forward to going to WW and getting the DPMS Panther, if they let me order one, and let her play outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by self preservation View Post
    ...the title of your thread is a little misleading at first glance.
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    I know.

    It was intentional.
    Do you by any chance work in advertising?

    You gotta pick your battles. I'd just be happy that your Wallyworld still sells firearms. The one in Murray quit selling "sporting" rifles and shotguns several years ago and quit selling black powder guns just this last spring. They don't seem to even sell black powder supplies anymore... which means I'm stuck with mail order or the overpriced Elmer Fudd-o-rama hunting and fishing emporium in town for my Powerbelts and 209 primers.

    As far as not calling in your 4473, well, it is Wal Mart. I'm sure their policy is to call them all in just to avoid any "imperial entanglements"... heh. These aren't the law abiding citizens you're looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutshot View Post
    Every Walmart that I've been to was well aware of the law and are only following corporate policy. It gets worse. If you happen to be a person that gets a "delay" on a NICS, you will not get your gun from Walmart until you get an "approved" from NICS. If the three day limit expires without a return call from NICS, no gun for you. Normally, if the three days expire the gun store is allowed to go ahead with the sale and Walmart is "allowed" to do so, too, but chooses not to.
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    They have always done that as far as I know. I worked at Walmart in high school in the 1991. I bought a 10-22 there with my employee discount, and they escorted me to the front door just like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by self preservation View Post
    And no disrespect toward fib_78, but the title of your thread is a little misleading at first glance.
    Writing 101: the most important part of any written work is the title.

    The title obviously done the job flb intended based on the number of comments this thread has received.
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    Quote Originally Posted by self preservation
    they are only fooling themselves with this "safety" policy.
    ... this policy is like many policies and laws... passed on ignorance and fear.[/QUOTE]
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