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    Wa State Supreme Court orders broad disclosure of police records

    seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015946104_courtruling19m.html

    Seems as tho the PeeDee has to give you the records you ask for. SVG you might want to resubmit your request for misconduct records of Officer Allen Bass, of the Bellingham PD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015946104_courtruling19m.html

    Seems as tho the PeeDee has to give you the records you ask for. SVG you might want to resubmit your request for misconduct records of Officer Allen Bass, of the Bellingham PD.
    If you don't already know, you should be seeking "Use of Force" and "Use of Weapons" reports, as well.
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    Have a link to the actual court opinion? Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015946104_courtruling19m.html

    Seems as tho the PeeDee has to give you the records you ask for. SVG you might want to resubmit your request for misconduct records of Officer Allen Bass, of the Bellingham PD.
    Yea need to narrow my request Mr. Erb is stretching the law a bit on what he wants to disclose I believe but I am not the expert.

    Quote Originally Posted by rapgood View Post
    If you don't already know, you should be seeking "Use of Force" and "Use of Weapons" reports, as well.
    Thanks for the advice I shall use that terminology in my next request.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    The other problem I see is that the complaints are filed but exonerated over and over again so Mr. Erb feels those are not to be public, so there is no way we can find the "trend".

    I am still curious why he feels the registered complaint sent separate to city hall shouldn't be included because of the investigation. When I was under the impression all documents sent to city hall are public records. He irritated me and lied to me when he was a public defender so I got a little bug up my but about him....lol.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Thanks, I still have trouble posting links that work.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    Thanks, I still have trouble posting links that work.
    All you need to do is make sure it starts with http:// anything that starts with that is auto-converted by the forums to a hyperlink.

    http://www.opencarry.org
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    Sounds to me that this ruling will have limited value unless suing a PD for a pattern of covering up officers actions. Any records without specific names of officers under investigation won't help nailing an officers @$$ to the barn door, only help in a suit against the department in general.

    Another decision from a bunch of nutless wonders.
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    Not nutless, statist.....

    I agree but it does help, even without the officers names, if you know the officer involved and his history, the city and PD may be more inclined to do something about this officer. And they can't withhold info they have been withholding.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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