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    ATF to ban many shotguns?

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is inviting public comments on its new rule regarding shotguns. It plans to ban them.


    There will be a ban on imports. (Note: watch prices rise on those already in the USA.)


    The basis of this ban will be the guns’ semi-automatic status. It(sic) the magazine has more than five rounds, the weapon will be banned.


    Why? Because the BATF designates these as “military.”



    http://visiontoamerica.org/10000/atf...over-5-rounds/
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    Please notice that lack of primary sources for this article. Trash like this is not worth the paper it is not written on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcgunfan View Post
    Please notice that lack of primary sources for this article. Trash like this is not worth the paper it is not written on.

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    Oh it was very real.

    As it turns out, this most recent attempt has been quashed for now.
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    Worth much more than the paper on which it is written

    If you doubt the intent and direction of the ATF, try to purchase one of the 100,000 surplus M1 the Koreans have tried to return to us.
    http://volokh.com/2010/08/18/obama-b...100000-rifles/

    http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...s-m1-carbines/

    http://survivalandprosperity.com/201...m-south-korea/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
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    I did not say it wasn't real, I said the article was trash because it did not have any sources to back up its claims. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    If you doubt the intent and direction of the ATF, try to purchase one of the 100,000 surplus M1 the Koreans have tried to return to us.
    http://volokh.com/2010/08/18/obama-b...100000-rifles/

    http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...s-m1-carbines/

    http://survivalandprosperity.com/201...m-south-korea/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
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    There was a rider placed in last years budget bill that prohibits the ATF from restricting importation of shotguns. This is last years news.
    Last edited by KYGlockster; 05-28-2012 at 01:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcgunfan View Post
    Please notice that lack of primary sources for this article. Trash like this is not worth the paper it is not written on.

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    People, shotguns with greater than 5 round capacity are *already* banned from import, whether the firearm is semi-auto, pump or otherwise. And it didn't come from ATF bureaucratic edict, it is law. It's right in the U.S.C, y'all are about 20 years behind with the times. That legislation was passed in the 90's. If you want a shotgun with greater than 5 round capacity, it either has to be made in the USA or have enough compliance parts to get around the import ban, legally at least.

    You know, we really aught to do something about all of that.

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    The BATF (no surprise) obviously has not read US v. Miller.

    http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/miller.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by CO-Joe View Post
    People, shotguns with greater than 5 round capacity are *already* banned from import, whether the firearm is semi-auto, pump or otherwise. And it didn't come from ATF bureaucratic edict, it is law. It's right in the U.S.C, y'all are about 20 years behind with the times. That legislation was passed in the 90's. If you want a shotgun with greater than 5 round capacity, it either has to be made in the USA or have enough compliance parts to get around the import ban, legally at least.

    You know, we really aught to do something about all of that.
    Yep, my SPAS12 was one of the last imported with the evil folding stock and full mag capacity. Sadly, it's mostly a safe queen now.

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