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    Seattle Shootings

    So the shootings today didn't stop someone from Washington Ceasefire from going down to the crime scene in order to get his face on TV. First thing he says is that, "Guns are the problem." and "Close the gun show loophole." It boggles my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsx1138 View Post
    So the shootings today didn't stop someone from Washington Ceasefire from going down to the crime scene in order to get his face on TV. First thing he says is that, "Guns are the problem." and "Close the gun show loophole." It boggles my mind.
    The funny thing is it is the guns that are keeping him his right to spout this dribble. If he got his wish and only the goverment and cops (to include bad guys) had guns then what is to stop the goverment from taking his right to free speech away.....

    LOL He just doesn't get it.

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    My prayers go to the victims and their families.
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    McGinn is talking about "addressing the issue of easy access to guns.."

    McGinn is talking about addressing guns and access to them, specifically stating easy access, gun show loophole, illegal carry, and underage carry. There may be more... Get ready for the circus to begin.

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    All Shootings - SAME Shooter!

    Just heard that all the shootings today were done by the same shooter!

    He is now dead by self-inflicted gun shot.

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    WTH, is ceasefire hiring people to go shoot people?
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    RIP to all the victims.

    This is just another example the politicians are going to use to restrict the rights of the 350k+ legal gun concealed carry permit holders in this state.

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    I sure hope they arrest these guns. After all, it's the prevalence of guns that's the problem here. SPD said so, so I hope they step up patrols and start arresting more guns and bringing them to trial. :/

    I was just watching Q13 news their on the street guy mentioned the surge in CPL's of late. Of course, they fail to mention that NONE of these shootings were committed by CPL holders, but of course, they make it sound like there's a correlation between the number of CPL's and the number of shootings. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeesBonafide View Post
    McGinn is talking about addressing guns and access to them, specifically stating easy access, gun show loophole, illegal carry, and underage carry. There may be more... Get ready for the circus to begin.
    I am so sorry for anyone living in Seattle. Your mayor is a village idiot. Really. He wants to pass a unlawful discharge of a firearm ordiance????? My god is there no end to these numnut ideas.

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    Can't believe they use that press conference right there and then to push for stricter gun laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Can't believe they use that press conference right there and then to push for stricter gun laws.
    The anti-gunners use the negative happenings as their soapboxes. If someone was hurt then they want to use it to push their views without any regard to the victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxx.jakk.xxx View Post
    The anti-gunners use the negative happenings as their soapboxes. If someone was hurt then they want to use it to push their views without any regard to the victims.
    I know but there is a time and a place for everything and that was not the place or the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I know but there is a time and a place for everything and that was not the place or the time.
    I totally agree.
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    Fractured ‘Emerald’ – Seattle homicides surge, Ceasefire dances in blood

    ... People are wondering what is happening in Seattle. Even KOMO’s Ken Schram stated on the air that this is not typical of the image people have of the city…


    http://www.examiner.com/article/frac...e-dances-blood

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    Pimping your articles in this thread isn't dancing in the blood too, Dave? And since when do we care what Schram thinks? He's a foaming at the mouth anti-gunner who occasionally flips sides when he thinks it will up his readership.

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    I would like Mayor McGinn and Washington Ceasefire to explain to me how tighter gun control would have prevented this. McGinn must NEVER become governor of Washington! Condolences to the victims' families.

    McGinn and Ceasefire are absolutely insane. They need to go spend a few days in Chicago if they think tighter gun control works!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobarino View Post
    Pimping your articles in this thread isn't dancing in the blood too, Dave? And since when do we care what Schram thinks? He's a foaming at the mouth anti-gunner who occasionally flips sides when he thinks it will up his readership.
    Schramm may be a butt-hole most of the time but his rants usually focus on those who leave their guns lying around the house for either kids to play with or stolen by anyone who breaks in. In that sense he's spot on, to criticize the irresponsible gun owners. His favorite statement is to deride those who "keep their firearm in the underwear drawer instead of locked up".

    Main point in his rant is the amount of guns that make their way into the illegal gun market. I can't fault him for those statements, they're the truth.

    How many right here on this forum don't bother to lock up there guns when they're not carrying them? All sorts of excuses but no valid reason to not do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    They need to go spend a few days in Chicago if they think tighter gun control works!
    Or Washington, D. C.. Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, etc.

    Even with tighter control most firearms are obtained from Family, Friends, Drug Dealers, etc. While it's a little dated, here's a chart showing the sources of guns possessed by federal inmates in 1967. I don't think the sources have changed drastically other than maybe the percentage from retail stores. That's probably gone down with tighter enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsx1138 View Post
    So the shootings today didn't stop someone from Washington Ceasefire from going down to the crime scene in order to get his face on TV. First thing he says is that, "Guns are the problem." and "Close the gun show loophole." It boggles my mind.
    We all know the guns are not the issue it is those who commit crimes and lost their right to keep and bear arms by the laws in place now, adding new ones will not improve these misguided stats.

    I did see on the news in Yakima about the gang/gun problem here in Yakima and to have our PD acknowledge it is not a gun issue is good.

    Fewer guns being taken off the street
    "What's important about the gun cases has nothing to do with the guns themselves,” said Lt Belles. “It really has to do with the people we are taking off the street that are willing to commit crimes with guns."
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    I don't get people say places with stricter gun laws are safer. But the weekend I left Chicago 4 years ago had 32 shooting in one weekend. And they have the must rules I have ever seen. When I left guns were not alound in the city and no carry in the state.

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    It's be reported on the John Carlson show by the father of the perpetrator that he possessed a CPL.
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    This outlines the problem we are facing right now..

    http://www.examiner.com/article/anti...pushing-agenda

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    from a comment in a Seattle times article (NOT MINE):

    It is comical to hear that these gun control nut jobs actually think gun control is the answer to stopping gun crime. Let me put it in perspective. Society is made of people. Mortal man, human beings. Regardless of what anyone thinks, ad man is a man whether it be a bum on the street or Mr. Obama himself. With that being said, there are 4 facets in the heirarchy of American Society. They are:

    1. Criminals
    2. law abiding citizens
    3. Police
    4. Military (politicians included here)

    Now, who will "gun control" restrict? All facets of our society? Or just one? I see that it will restrict the ones who need their 2nd Amendment the most..#2, the law abiding citizen.

    Yes it is a tragedy when a shooting like this occurs, but there is no way to rid our society of guns, it's just NOT going to happen. If you think it is, you are delusional, so please stop. These "gun control" laws make one facet of society less safe..the law abiding citizen..and make another stronger...the criminals.

    Now, call me whatever name you want I really do not care, but do you think if everyone in that arts cafe were armed, that 6 of them would be dead? I think the number would be closer to 2. And for all you idiots who are about to say, "2 is too many, we want 0 and that is it", well then move to Candyland and let me know how it is there. There is no place on earth like that, and this man could have just as easily killed 6 people with an ax or machete. Let them ban guns and see it for yourself. If you want to stop gun violence, then stop "gun control". The only person "controlling" the guns are the people. If they can not enforce the laws they have on the books already, what makes them think that new laws will make it any better? This is why I seriously see liberalism as a mental defect. It is just irrational thinking all around.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss
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    "What's important about the gun cases has nothing to do with the guns themselves,” said Lt Belles. “It really has to do with the people we are taking off the street that are willing to commit crimes with guns."

    Now there is a Cop that gets it, buy that man or woman a steak.

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