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    sign at sparks marina?

    Wouldn't state preemption void the firearms part of this sign... or am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotetrapper View Post
    Wouldn't state preemption void the firearms part of this sign... or am I missing something?
    http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...516_154405.jpg

    It is my understanding that the City Attorney of Sparks agreed a long time ago that the state pre-empted local ordinances. You might get in contact with the Admistrator/Director of your local Parks and Rec dept and let them know that the signs are in violation of state law and that they may want to contact the City Attorney about changing them. You might let him/her know that down in this end of the state the City of Henderson simply taped over all the wording not in conformance to state law regarding firearms and suggest that they do something similar.

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    Agreed with TBG. I was under the impression that Sparks had already taken those signs down, they seemed pretty easy going on the issue back in a thread a year or two ago. Further proof, I can't find any firearm prohibition in the "Parks" section of the SMC, I believe it has been officially removed: http://cityofsparks.us/municode/Title_12/24/index
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    Both the Park Director and the Sparks police know the in Sept of 2010 the Sparks City counsel signed the bill nullfying that city ord. and in may of 2010 me and 5 of sparks finest and the park ranger had a talk while in the park on this very matter!!

    Well they left educated and I continued to roam the park a free and armed OC citizen

    Here are a couple of links for ya
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...torneys-office
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...rina-Encounter

    And here is the bill repealing the city ord, so you are safe
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13231271/Ord%202445.pdf

    Also Tracy Domingues (Sparks park director) said over the phone that she is aware the ord changed and she has let her people know about the change, and I have also been in the park several times with no incident
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    Quote Originally Posted by john-in-reno View Post
    ...Also Tracy Domingues (Sparks park director) said over the phone that she is aware the ord changed and she has let her people know about the change, and I have also been in the park several times with no incident
    I have a problem with administrators that "know about" the change and don't change the signage. Not only does it show a disrespect for the law, but others who see the sign and then see us think that we are law-breakers. I have a problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I have a problem with administrators that "know about" the change and don't change the signage. Not only does it show a disrespect for the law, but others who see the sign and then see us think that we are law-breakers. I have a problem with that.
    I agree. Here in Henderson the Parks Dept moved quickly to change the signs, but the powers that be neglected to change the park ordinance. I had to remind them. In addition, it took forever and much prodding to get the signs changed on city buildings. My thought, and only my thought, was that they were just going leave them and just not enforce them. The thinking would be that it would deter the unwashed into thinking it was still a no-no. Like childen', ya've gotta keep on dem guvment workers.


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    sunday night I went for a late night walk around the marina with a friend, I was going to ask about this, but Its okay to OC now. so thats good.

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    I've been lurking for a while and even though I have a copy of the City of Sparks Ordinance #2445 that clearly repeals the law, I wanted to clear up my suspicions, misunderstandings or any uncertainties I might have had regarding the possession of firearms in City parks; so I got into contact with the Chief of Police (Sparks) last week and he confirmed today (after reviewing) that it was perfectly fine to open carry and that they would in fact remove all signs in the near future. He thanked me for bringing this to his attention.

    I wouldn't call this a victory because it isn't a war between "us and them" but more-so a clarification of the law for both parties, I hope that by bringing this to his attention he passes the information on to his officers so as to really solidify the prevention of any ill-incident.

    [I know the head official of the "parks and recreation" department said they were going to remove the signs some time ago, but hopefully now that someone with more prestige and importance is on-board it'll get the ball rolling faster].
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    Quote Originally Posted by G23inNN View Post
    I've been lurking for a while and even though I have a copy of the City of Sparks Ordinance #2445 that clearly repeals the law, I wanted to clear up my suspicions, misunderstandings or any uncertainties I might have had regarding the possession of firearms in City parks; so I got into contact with the Chief of Police (Sparks) last week and he confirmed today (after reviewing) that it was perfectly fine to open carry and that they would in fact remove all signs in the near future. He thanked me for bringing this to his attention.

    I wouldn't call this a victory because it isn't a war between "us and them" but more-so a clarification of the law for both parties, I hope that by bringing this to his attention he passes the information on to his officers so as to really solidify the prevention of any ill-incident.

    [I know the head official of the "parks and recreation" department said they were going to remove the signs some time ago, but hopefully now that someone with more prestige and importance is on-board it'll get the ball rolling faster].
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    Quote Originally Posted by G23inNN View Post
    [I know the head official of the "parks and recreation" department said they were going to remove the signs some time ago, but hopefully now that someone with more prestige and importance is on-board it'll get the ball rolling faster].

    I'm inclined to call this one sign left up an error. There used to be more signs posted around the walkway, but the last few times I ran there I only noticed the one on the far side (somewhat near Scheels).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I have a problem with administrators that "know about" the change and don't change the signage.
    It costs money to change a sign.

    It would be interested to see the reaction if someone paints out the offending passage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC View Post
    It costs money to change a sign.

    It would be interested to see the reaction if someone paints out the offending passage.
    Ha! They could ask for volunteers to take care of the deletion. I'm sure there would be plenty of OCers up there who would be glad to delete it for free as a public service.

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