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    Open carry at walmart

    Well im new to the open carry law. I have been doing it for about 2 weeks now. Im from Texas and have always CC cause they have dont have OC but came to Virginia Beach with the Navy. So i though i would OC and CC at the same time just to try OC out. Well it has been really nice and i am starting to become a big fan of it! Just though it was cool when i ran in to someone else who was OC at Walmart. around 6PM today been here for a few weeks and was the first person i have seen OC. Just though i would share my story. Haha Need to see more people doing it!! I love getting the looks makes me laugh!

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    WELCOME to OCDO, logan_zugg!

    I, too, came to Virginia from Texas (retired at Lackland AFB, then moved here). It's incredibly liberating not to have to worry about what clothes you can wear because this prints or that doesn't offer freedom of movement or whatever. And I've found very few places, even here in the liberal enclaves of Northern Virginia, where OC is not *generally* accepted.

    Many on hear speak of the WalMart walk as their first OC experience.

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    I should OC at walmart. I drive a school bus and park it in a walmart lot so i usually do my shoping then so I havent really had the chance.

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    Ya for sure Walmart is a great place to start! The only thing i would like to see is CC on base!!! But that is just a dream :P maybe one day!

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    Yes it is so nice not worrying about the kinda of cloths i were. I am starting to like it better CC haha But i keep one in my boot and on OC So i guess im going to do both for Know on. lol

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    Walmart is one of my favorite places to OC and for buying ammo.



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    Welcome to OCDO!! Stick around and you will learn a lot!!!

    The Walmart Walk is a classic way to start OCing. Glad to hear that you did not have any issues, that's the way it should be.

    Since you're going to be in VA for awhile you may want to check out the Virginia Citizens Defense League. It is a great group dedicated to gun rights in VA. If you go to their website you can sign up for VA-ALERT (on the right side of the page) which is a free email system that will keep you informed about everything gun-related going on in the state. The website is http://www.vcdl.org

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    welcome to VA logan. I too came to VA because of the Navy, and live in VB. OCing is great, especially useful close to and after midnight on Black Friday at the walmart.

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    Welcome to OCDO and to Virginia.

    A big "Thank You" to thebigsd for mentioning the Walmart Walk http://preview.tinyurl.com/3j6ks74 , since I have unofficially been banned from mentioning it because someone noticed it started as a way for folks to practice CC, not OC. You can tell how old it is because the Nacho Station is long gone.

    Do check the stickies at the top of the page for get-togethers. There is one tomorrow right down the street from you. http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...Virginia-Beach

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    Oh thats cool. Ya do gatherings for OC? Where on the forum is that?

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    hollow points

    One more question. I have always used hollow point rounds. But i ran in to someone the outer day and they told me hollow point rounds are not legal in VA anyone know if thats true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan_zugg View Post
    One more question. I have always used hollow point rounds. But i ran in to someone the outer day and they told me hollow point rounds are not legal in VA anyone know if thats true?
    that "someone" is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logan_zugg View Post
    One more question. I have always used hollow point rounds. But i ran in to someone the outer day and they told me hollow point rounds are not legal in VA anyone know if thats true?
    Hollow Point Ammo is perfectly legal here. The only place I know that makes hollow points illegal is NJ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan_zugg View Post
    Oh thats cool. Ya do gatherings for OC? Where on the forum is that?
    I gave you the link to the one tomorrow in Va Beach. Please do not make me fire up the curmudgeon stick.

    When events are announced they sit at the top of the list of threads as "stickies" until after the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan_zugg View Post
    One more question. I have always used hollow point rounds. But i ran in to someone the outer day and they told me hollow point rounds are not legal in VA anyone know if thats true?
    Rule 5 applies to real life, as well as to OCDO posts. Someone tells you something is legal/illegal/one color as opposed to another color - ask them to provide a citation (another way of saying "Prove it to me").

    (5) CITE TO AUTHORITY: If you state a rule of law, it is incumbent upon you to try to cite, as best you can, to authority. Citing to authority, using links when available,is what makes OCDO so successful. An authority is a published source of law that can back your claim up - statute, ordinance, court case, newspaper article covering a legal issue, etc.
    The fun in situations like that "someone" telling you hollow points are illegal in Va is they wouyld need to cite something in the Code of Virginia of 1959, as amended, and that is just not in there. Laws here in Va twell us what we cannot do - if there is no law about it it means we can do it. That is why, for example, we say OC is the default mode for carrying firearms in Va.

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    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...wisdom-with-me!


    I am new as well. The people here are worth their weight in gold with knowledge of VA gun law. Except grapeshot he is skinny so he is probably worth twice his weight in gold. The link I provided was a thread I started that is jam packed with good stuff. some of it might be redundant because I see you already have some experience but none the less would be a great place to get up to speed on VA law. If you happen to learn something interesting or important please share. You might find something I missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan_zugg View Post
    Oh thats cool. Ya do gatherings for OC? Where on the forum is that?
    Yes, we get together every so often in Virginia Beach for a dinner while we all OC. Just as we would normally do . It is a great time to meet like minded people, and have good informative conversation. A real good chance to learn. The folks up near Richmond have an OC breakfast every two weeks if I'm not mistaken. Just keep an eye out here in the Virginia section of OCDO and a any time one is organized it will be posted in a thread on here. All persons interested are invited, just RSVP on the thread and make sure to show up! Welcome hope to see you tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logan_zugg View Post
    One more question. I have always used hollow point rounds. But i ran in to someone the outer day and they told me hollow point rounds are not legal in VA anyone know if thats true?
    Hllow points are legal here, thats what you want in your gun. So if you had to shoot, those rounds don't go through your attacker(s) and harm innocent people.
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    All handgun and rifle ammo is legal in Virginia. Although there is a law reguarding restricted ammo, as far as I know it is only restricted when used illegally.

    § 18.2-308.3. Use or attempted use of restricted ammunition in commission or attempted commission of crimes prohibited; penalty.

    A. When used in this section:

    "Restricted firearm ammunition" applies to bullets, projectiles or other types of ammunition that are: (i) coated with or contain, in whole or in part, polytetrafluorethylene or a similar product, (ii) commonly known as "KTW" bullets or "French Arcanes," or (iii) any cartridges containing bullets coated with a plastic substance with other than lead or lead alloy cores, jacketed bullets with other than lead or lead alloy cores, or cartridges of which the bullet itself is wholly comprised of a metal or metal alloy other than lead. This definition shall not be construed to include shotgun shells or solid plastic bullets.

    B. It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly use or attempt to use restricted firearm ammunition while committing or attempting to commit a crime. Violation of this section shall constitute a separate and distinct felony and any person found guilty thereof shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony.

    (1983, c. 602; 1988, c. 530.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiK_SacK View Post
    .... The folks up near Richmond have an OC breakfast every two weeks if I'm not mistaken. ....
    The weekly Saturday morning OC breakfast is held weekly on Saturdays. Attendance is limited to those who show up. RSVPs are more to exchange chit-chat than to actually secure a place at the table.

    It took one person finding out that another person ate breakfast at a certain place fairly regularly for the two of them to start having breakfast together. Then someone found out that the two of them were meeting for breakfast, and now all of some of the kids want to have breakfast too. In other words, the adage "If you announce it they will come" works better than trying to get everybody to agree to do it before you decide when and where to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobeewan View Post
    All handgun and rifle ammo is legal in Virginia. Although there is a law reguarding restricted ammo, as far as I know it is only restricted when used illegally.

    § 18.2-308.3. Use or attempted use of restricted ammunition in commission or attempted commission of crimes prohibited; penalty.

    A. When used in this section:

    "Restricted firearm ammunition" applies to bullets, projectiles or other types of ammunition that are: (i) coated with or contain, in whole or in part, polytetrafluorethylene or a similar product, (ii) commonly known as "KTW" bullets or "French Arcanes," or (iii) any cartridges containing bullets coated with a plastic substance with other than lead or lead alloy cores, jacketed bullets with other than lead or lead alloy cores, or cartridges of which the bullet itself is wholly comprised of a metal or metal alloy other than lead. This definition shall not be construed to include shotgun shells or solid plastic bullets.

    B. It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly use or attempt to use restricted firearm ammunition while committing or attempting to commit a crime. Violation of this section shall constitute a separate and distinct felony and any person found guilty thereof shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony.

    (1983, c. 602; 1988, c. 530.)
    I am not truly familiar with the actual construction of bullets however this did confuse me a bit as the carry ammo I use is labeled as a 28 grain Copper Trident PFP. 99% copper NOT related to beryllium copper. Now should I assume this is just the actual projectile. I have not seen a statute that denies said ammo, just curious for more information. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan_zugg View Post
    Oh thats cool. Ya do gatherings for OC? Where on the forum is that?
    Logan.. where are YOU besides "United States"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocholsteroc View Post
    Hllow points are legal here, thats what you want in your gun. So if you had to shoot, those rounds don't go through your attacker(s) and harm innocent people.
    Who put that fool notion in your head.
    Innocent people better not stand behind someone I'm shooting at!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mobeewan View Post
    All handgun and rifle ammo is legal in Virginia. Although there is a law reguarding restricted ammo, as far as I know it is only restricted when used illegally.

    § 18.2-308.3. Use or attempted use of restricted ammunition in commission or attempted commission of crimes prohibited; penalty.

    A. When used in this section:

    "Restricted firearm ammunition" applies to bullets, projectiles or other types of ammunition that are: (i) coated with or contain, in whole or in part, polytetrafluorethylene or a similar product, (ii) commonly known as "KTW" bullets or "French Arcanes," or (iii) any cartridges containing bullets coated with a plastic substance with other than lead or lead alloy cores, jacketed bullets with other than lead or lead alloy cores, or cartridges of which the bullet itself is wholly comprised of a metal or metal alloy other than lead. This definition shall not be construed to include shotgun shells or solid plastic bullets.

    B. It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly use or attempt to use restricted firearm ammunition while committing or attempting to commit a crime. Violation of this section shall constitute a separate and distinct felony and any person found guilty thereof shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony.

    (1983, c. 602; 1988, c. 530.)
    Of all the gun control laws in existence, why does this one law buck the trend and apply only when the person is using the ammo to commit or attempt to commit a crime? This is the framework that all gun laws should use.

    TFred

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    Of all the gun control laws in existence, why does this one law buck the trend and apply only when the person is using the ammo to commit or attempt to commit a crime? This is the framework that all gun laws should use.

    TFred
    I don't want to get into baby steps today but this is the way we fixed the "No ammunition designed to pierce body armor" law.

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