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    Robbed at knive point

    Recently, i was in colorado springs, platte wal mart, in february. I got a Rx for Morphine, for my schrapnel removal surgery after being blown up in 07. Well, i usually carry, but i was in a hurry and didnt. i served 8 yrs infantry/Sniper. Well I get to my truck and did not see anyone. i open my passenger door, and i get a knive shoved in my back!! i turn around and theres 2 guys, the one says, give me the morphine and keys and wallet, I said, no i will not and he shoved a little harder, Now my military hand to hand training kicks in, and automatically, i grab knive, and turn in around and plant it in his chest. the other guy ran, After hours at police station and after the guy died, it was deemed self defense, but thats why i always always carry now, i usually did, but not always. Now i always do!! remember guys, Always be aware of your surroundings!!! especially when you got something people will kill for!
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    Ummm...you pulled a knive (sic) out of your back and plunged it into the assailant's chest and he died and it was all cleared up in a few hours as justified? You didn't require medical attention? He didn't stab you somewhere that hurt and didn't cause potential movement damage?

    Please provide information on location, time, date and officers involved for FOIA.


    Also...Walmart fills morphine scripts? You're still on morphine after six years?
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    This is the True Tales sub-section!!!

    Unless your Jordan Ellis http://www.gazette.com/articles/elli...ury-trial.html and are typing this from prison...

    or you are Ronda Donner http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_17872159 and are still drunk while you wrote this...

    I'm calling BS...with capitol letters!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devin Hutchison View Post
    Your kidding right?
    No, my queries were completely serious. Why do you ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    Ummm...you pulled a knive (sic) out of your back and plunged it into the assailant's chest and he died and it was all cleared up in a few hours as justified? You didn't require medical attention? He didn't stab you somewhere that hurt and didn't cause potential movement damage?

    Please provide information on location, time, date and officers involved for FOIA.


    Also...Walmart fills morphine scripts? You're still on morphine after six years?
    Quote Originally Posted by Devin Hutchison View Post
    Your kidding right?
    Nope she's not kidding -actually even without such claim being covered under forum rules, there have been far too many first time posters with extreme tales to let them go unsubstantiated. If true, then no one such be offended or avoid providing the details - it's entirely reasonable. There is more than one thing that doesn't add up as reported.

    Also see a sincere lack of situational awareness to let a BG get that close, actually make physical contact, in an open parking lot environment. None of the sniper/ranger/LRR guys I know would sleep-walk through that.

    So we wait - a little conformation will go a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Nope she's not kidding -actually even without such claim being covered under forum rules, there have been far too many first time posters with extreme tales to let them go unsubstantiated. If true, then no one such be offended or avoid providing the details - it's entirely reasonable. There is more than one thing that doesn't add up as reported.

    Also see a sincere lack of situational awareness to let a BG get that close, actually make physical contact, in an open parking lot environment. None of the sniper/ranger/LRR guys I know would sleep-walk through that.

    So we wait - a little conformation will go a long way.
    Indeed. Lot of hokey here. Is it possible? Sure, -since not every "justifiable" defensive kill ends up in a grand jury, much less an arrest.(and certainly not always to something than can be linked to on the web,when asked for by someone in a forum...).but..
    As to the S/A.... not many Snipers I know with Situational Awareness poor enough to let 2 street punks get the drop on em that easily.. if this did happen then, shame on you, bro. AND- how did these two know you had obtained morph (if a Wal Mart even handled narcotic perscriptions-most dont) ? Yhey would have had to follow you out of the store, after having been close enough to observe your transaction, no? Something even basic S/A should have alerted you to, since you know darned well street punks would love to get their hands on some morph....

    As to the knifing... highly, highly, HIGHLY un-likely. Edged-weapon combatives are something of a particular specialty of mine. 1-strike "kills" with a blade short of sword-types are not at all likely to result in a 1-strike kill.

    For all the SD folks who go on and on about "shot placement/penetration" in here, it becomes all the more important with the use of knives -since they strike with nothing even close to handgun bullet velocities, and are rarely of a length that will permit the depth of penetration needed for a vital hit/CNS kill.
    Knife fights are nasty, ugly biz- and usually end up involving mulitiple cuts/slashes/thrusts (I've plenty of my own scars from it, to bear that out) to eventually result in a death. Even with the Army's hand-to-hand training (minimal at best, re: actual knife dis-arming/fighting elements).
    Hollywood is hollywood. The actual street is certainly NOT Hollywood.

    But, more details, and I may give the benefit of a doubt to some of this.
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    First rule of a knife fight............your going to bleed.

    Ama Guro Mike Sayoc would undoubted have done as well or better than the OP, but not this humble student of Kali.
    Mike would have laughed at him and taken his butter spreader away.
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    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Hey OP, you should teach me some of your CQC moves. That way the next time I actually get stabbed, I can pull the knife out like a Terminator and return the favor to my assailants.
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    You all are a rough bunch. Don't you want to give him a chance to do some 'splainin'?

    Fortunately, some people learn and become productive to everyone's lasting credit.
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    Where did you get blown up at?

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    Steven Seagal, is that you?
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    If it's the truth give the guy a chance. I served in the military as infantry and I'm always aware of my surroundings unless I'm really thinking of other things. Some people lie but when all of you call it a lie I wouldn't respond probably either. Give the guy a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    If it's the truth give the guy a chance. I served in the military as infantry and I'm always aware of my surroundings unless I'm really thinking of other things. Some people lie but when all of you call it a lie I wouldn't respond probably either. Give the guy a chance.
    No one called it a lie.

    Do want verification of the veracity of unusual and strange claims however. Pointing out the inconsistencies and lack of the parts fitting is not to accuse the gentleman of fabrication.
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    Y'all lay off MillerKimber1!

    I just read the opening chapter of his new sci-fi fantasy and enjoyed it immensely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    You all are a rough bunch. Don't you want to give him a chance to do some 'splainin'?
    Absolutely. I imagine the explanation he may offer will be worth buckets and buckets of popcorn

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    Steven Seagal, is that you?
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    why...

    was he on the PASSENGER side of the truck? Wouldn't you have used your dominant hand to open the door? if right-handed and opening the passenger side of a truck, your body is half-way into the vehicle. how did he have room to turn around?

    and what tape was in the cassette player at the time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmoosejaw View Post
    Steven Seagal, is that you?
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    Additionaly after being released from the police station I decided to pick up the blood trail, yes blood, and not mine. When the second attacker fled the scene leaving his dying crack buddy on the asphalt of Walmart, I had picked up an empty Colt-45 quart bottle and hurdled it at him. Taking in account wind and distance I placed it perfectly on his occipital bone, lacerating the skin as the bottle shattered.


    I followed the blood trail for miles, just as I was about to lose hope of ever finding this walmart predator I noticed a speckle of blood on the sidewalk. I smelled it, rubbed it between my fingers, and yes I tasted it. It was blood, and not mine. More splatters led me directly into the community clinic. I entered and asked if anyone had come in seeking aid for a laceration to the back of the head. I was in luck, a nurse confirmed just such a patent, and, give me his room number, my military training paid off one again!


    I kicked the door in, and flung the curtain with such fury there was no time for him to react as he laid wimpering over the pain of his 50 stiches. He was shocked, and horrified to see me. But laid real peaceful like when I left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    Additionaly after being released from the police station I decided to pick up the blood trail, yes blood, and not mine. When the second attacker fled the scene leaving his dying crack buddy on the asphalt of Walmart, I had picked up an empty Colt-45 quart bottle and hurdled it at him. Taking in account wind and distance I placed it perfectly on his occipital bone, lacerating the skin as the bottle shattered.


    I followed the blood trail for miles, just as I was about to lose hope of ever finding this walmart predator I noticed a speckle of blood on the sidewalk. I smelled it, rubbed it between my fingers, and yes I tasted it. It was blood, and not mine. More splatters led me directly into the community clinic. I entered and asked if anyone had come in seeking aid for a laceration to the back of the head. I was in luck, a nurse confirmed just such a patent, and, give me his room number, my military training paid off one again!


    I kicked the door in, and flung the curtain with suck fury there was no time for him to react as he laid wimpering over the pain of his 50 stiches. He was shocked, and horrified to see me. But laid real peaceful like when I left.
    GOOD ONE! I imagine he hasn't replied cause he's out fighting crime somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmoosejaw View Post
    GOOD ONE! I imagine he hasn't replied cause he's out fighting crime somewhere.
    Prolly doesn't get off until after 5:00 PMMT.
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    With all due respect to the OP. I hopped on the band wagon of fun here. I suppose it could happen. Just seems a little far fetched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    Additionaly after being released from the police station I decided to pick up the blood trail, yes blood, and not mine. When the second attacker fled the scene leaving his dying crack buddy on the asphalt of Walmart, I had picked up an empty Colt-45 quart bottle and hurdled it at him. Taking in account wind and distance I placed it perfectly on his occipital bone, lacerating the skin as the bottle shattered.


    I followed the blood trail for miles, just as I was about to lose hope of ever finding this walmart predator I noticed a speckle of blood on the sidewalk. I smelled it, rubbed it between my fingers, and yes I tasted it. It was blood, and not mine. More splatters led me directly into the community clinic. I entered and asked if anyone had come in seeking aid for a laceration to the back of the head. I was in luck, a nurse confirmed just such a patent, and, give me his room number, my military training paid off one again!


    I kicked the door in, and flung the curtain with such fury there was no time for him to react as he laid wimpering over the pain of his 50 stiches. He was shocked, and horrified to see me. But laid real peaceful like when I left.
    Beautiful! RoboCop would be proud.
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    Didn't the poster who preformed the DOUBLE FEMUR shoot at a Burger King in Hamilton, Ohio also dissapear after posting about his heroic interaction with the BG?

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    J Iceman.

    He also had another thread of outlandish heroism under the name Jacob Iceman, I think. Hence, why I wonder if this is not the same...courageous...individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    Beautiful! RoboCop would be proud.
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