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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    J Iceman.

    He also had another thread of outlandish heroism under the name Jacob Iceman, I think. Hence, why I wonder if this is not the same...courageous...individual.
    Similar literary style, but no cigarillo.
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    My question is why would you say something on this level just for attention? I know that type of question will get me a ton of responses, but seriously!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWCook View Post
    My question is why would you say something on this level just for attention? I know that type of question will get me a ton of responses, but seriously!
    People do weird ****. Look at that loser on that TV talent show "America's Got Liar's" I mean "Talent" according to this boobs lies he had brain damage from an explosion, surap metal, purple heart, even used a picture of a different Solider as himself. I think I read somewhere it was an ear ache he suffered from, and missed the depolyment altogether?, poor boy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    Ummm...you pulled a knive (sic) out of your back and plunged it into the assailant's chest and he died and it was all cleared up in a few hours as justified? You didn't require medical attention? He didn't stab you somewhere that hurt and didn't cause potential movement damage?
    HE never said he was STABBED in the back, he said he "felt a knife in his back." I took this to mean he felt someone poke him with a knife, not an all-out stab--it was just bad grammer, syntax, and word choice on his part, not a claim of some superhuman preternatural abilities...

    I'm not defending this guy's story, just saying that most of you seem to be reading a LOT more into this first section than he actually stated or implied...

    But then the rest of his story, I agree with most of you, seems to get progressively more and more preposterous.

    My main question is how did the BG know he had a 'scrip for morphine? Either the BG had been lurking around the pharmacy when this guy filled his scrip and overheard the pharmacist talking about it, or he had eyes like a Keyhole Satellite and could read the receipt from across the parking lot.

    Of course, there is also the third (and VERY POSSIBLE) scenario that the cashier or pharmacist was in cahoots with the BG and notified him whenever someone filled such a "desireable" prescription...

    But considering the story as a whole, and the utter lack of ANY legitimate corroborating evidence or reportage, I call "SHENANIGANS"!!!

    Pics (or links to news stories) or it didn't happen...



    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    Also...Walmart fills morphine scripts? You're still on morphine after six years?
    Any pharmacy with a proper DEA pharmacy license may stock and dispense ANY drug that is legal as a phamraceutical, even if it is a "Schedule 2 controlled substance".

    People with sever back injuries, neurological damage, or long-term chronic pain are often on morphine for the rest of their lives. My wife (a home-care IV-therapy specialist RN) has patients who have been on morphine for DECADES...

    Since the current tactic in medical treatment is to follow the course of treatment that nets the most profit, treating the SYMPTOMS is the preferred mode of "treatment" to actually treating the CAUSE (or even FINDING the cause) of pain or malady.

    In other words, it costs the patient a LOT more money (and profits the doctors and Big Pharma) to treat them endlessly for pain until they die of old age (or as is often the case, from suicide caused by hopelessness and despair of never getting better) that to actually figure out WHY they have such terrible pain, and just FIX it...
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    I'm noticing a trend here lately. It seems that low-post-count folks appear out of nowhere, claiming they live in isolated, obscure areas, and making claims of extreme ninja-like skills they have used in strange self-defense situations.

    The tone of their stories is often two-layered--first, they are calm, and matter-of-fact, while claiming superhuman skills and surprisingly trouble-free legal outcomes even though they often claim to have killed their assailants in strange, bizarre and VERY public scenarios. And second, despite being matter-of-fact and calmly-told, these stories have a tone of "needyness" like they are fishing for approval, applause, praise or kudos.

    When "called out" they either get INSTANTLY rude and attack the sceptical members with swearing and slander, then disappear from the forum, r they just disappear without response...

    Here is my theory on these posts. They are NOT people at all--they are "bots". And they are designed to get "gun nut" responses--Dirty Harry kudos from the forum, which can then be used by whoever is putting these 'bots on our forum, against us--be it the government, or private "anti" groups.

    We certainly know that BOTH groups--the US Government AND groups like Brady have done such things in the past--taken quotes out of context, or used agent provocateur actions to glean nasty-sounding quotations from marginalized individuals, which they then twist to create the picture of some sort of "homegrown terror cell of domestic conspirators"...

    I say we should ALWAYS call "BS" on newbies who make such outlandish claims--no matter how well-written their stories are--as a matter of course.

    I say that if someone doesn't post a link to a police report, a FOIA'd 911 call, or a verifiable news report, then such stories should be vigorously and relentlessly SHOUTED DOWN as the potential agent-provocateur filth that they most likely are.

    I say that we should just function under the premise that ALL new members who make wild, outlandish, ninja-like claims of heroism and Rambo-Fu should be treated like they are some sort of disgusting troll, and piled onto by EVERY senior member of the forum, until they either go away or they provide verifiable proof of their claims.

    The defense of truth, and of this FORUM's integrity as a channel for truth and reasonable, rational educational information shoul dbe guarded and defended with fervent jealousy and rigorous attention.

    Hunt down trolls, 'bots, and agent provocateurs, and expose them for the filthy, disgusting slime they are...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    HE never said he was STABBED in the back, he said he "felt a knife in his back." I took this to mean he felt someone poke him with a knife, not an all-out stab--it was just bad grammer, syntax, and word choice on his part, not a claim of some superhuman preternatural abilities...
    I did wonder about that, but figured if he wasn't stabbed, the OP would specify in his response. IF, he ever returns, of course


    Any pharmacy with a proper DEA pharmacy license may stock and dispense ANY drug that is legal as a phamraceutical, even if it is a "Schedule 2 controlled substance".

    People with sever back injuries, neurological damage, or long-term chronic pain are often on morphine for the rest of their lives. My wife (a home-care IV-therapy specialist RN) has patients who have been on morphine for DECADES...

    Since the current tactic in medical treatment is to follow the course of treatment that nets the most profit, treating the SYMPTOMS is the preferred mode of "treatment" to actually treating the CAUSE (or even FINDING the cause) of pain or malady.

    In other words, it costs the patient a LOT more money (and profits the doctors and Big Pharma) to treat them endlessly for pain until they die of old age (or as is often the case, from suicide caused by hopelessness and despair of never getting better) that to actually figure out WHY they have such terrible pain, and just FIX it...
    Thank you for clarifying this. Regardless of my skeptical tone, my RX question was sincere. I have (purposely) limited experience with behind the counter drugs, as I would rather find the problem and treat it rather then medicate the symptoms of the issue. I was also under the impression that morphine had become limited in its use as a long term treatment drug, but that was only an impression, not something I knew factually. So I appreciate the information.

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    I can't imagine anyone driving let alone carrying on morphine. I had morphine injected once without the doctor telling me what it was, I would rather have the pain. I thought by his story he was stabbed, since he has not come back to clarify I can only take it the way it was stated. Morphine is some nasty stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    --snip--

    I say that if someone doesn't post a link to a police report, a FOIA'd 911 call, or a verifiable news report, then such stories should be vigorously and relentlessly SHOUTED DOWN persued as the potential agent-provocateur filth that they most likely are.

    I say that we should just function under the premise that ALL new members who make wild, outlandish, ninja-like claims of heroism and Rambo-Fu should be treated like they are some sort of disgusting troll, and piled onto by EVERY senior member of the forum, until they either go away or they provide verifiable proof of their claims.

    The defense of truth, and of this FORUM's integrity as a channel for truth and reasonable, rational educational information should be guarded and defended with fervent jealousy and rigorous attention.

    Hunt down trolls, 'bots, and agent provocateurs, and expose them for the filthy, disgusting slime they are...
    Small edits made above. Agree with the content - the truth is not for sale or rent. The hall monitor's chair is not empty.

    Maybe the OP is out of town, working the week-end or similar, but I would not bet my prime pasture land that he will return to set the record straight. Think I'll coin a new phrase to describe those who post outlandish tales then disappear = Poof posters or Poofs. They smell funny and leave a bad taste in your mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWCook View Post
    My question is why would you say something on this level just for attention? I know that type of question will get me a ton of responses, but seriously!
    The "why" of it is something that only the originator can answer, if they are capable of being honest about it. Anti's, basement dwelling trolls, wanna-be's and those with low self-esteem needing attention fit the profile. Such have tried numerous times before with zero success - this group is sharp and sees through the smoke and mirrors with 20/20 clarity.

    Ours is not to reason why, but to to keep the ship of OCDO on even keel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I can't imagine anyone driving let alone carrying on morphine. I had morphine injected once without the doctor telling me what it was, I would rather have the pain. I thought by his story he was stabbed, since he has not come back to clarify I can only take it the way it was stated. Morphine is some nasty stuff.
    Narcotic analgesics and synthetic narcotic analgesics hit a person fairly hard if they have never had them before. But the body adapts, and does so relatively quickly, to long-term (as defined by more than 10 days) of use and thus may require an ever-increasing dose in order to feel the same level of analgesia. Which is why folks with chronic pain are forced to deal with pain management clinics which are forced by the government to often leave the patient in debilitating pain for fear of criminal action for "over"-prescribing.

    1/4-grain of morphine sulphate IM is the usual analgesic dose for trauma patients - puts most of them in lala land, or at least not complaining about the pain, for several hours. After a few days patients will want their meds sooner than scheduled but are made to "suffer" until the relief of the scheduled dose - which BTW is the best way to get them addicted. Give them enough meds to control pain in the first place and they will usually ask to discontinue before the docs bring up the notion.

    Have you forgotten about Eric Scott? He was a chronic pain patient - the amount of legally and legitimately/reasonably Rx's pain meds he was on was just enough to allow him to function but would have laid low a person getting that much as a first dose.

    So you may want to temper your absolute opinion.

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    I got my only ever dose of it after some minor pain after a cath, I only asked for aspirin. The next thing I know they put a needle into my IV and immediately my skin began to crawl and I became very ill. I asked what it was and she replied morphine, honestly I don't know what the doctor was thinking. Maybe it was just me, but I can't imagine anybody functioning on that stuff.

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    "I say that if someone doesn't post a link to a police report, a FOIA'd 911 call, or a verifiable news report, then such stories should be vigorously and relentlessly SHOUTED DOWN as the potential agent-provocateur filth that they most likely are."

    One massive problem with that: This crutch everyone has begun to hop on, in this internet age.
    Not ALL incidents end up in a report, or on the news, or on a released-to-the-public 911 call tape. And even those that do result in a report, dont always end up as some link on the internet for anyone and their twin to click on.

    This whole concept of "if it's not linked somewhere online, it must be bogus" is simply nuts.

    Also curious, in the reverse, is the scarcity of when folks who claim to be "detained" or "harrassed" by cops and the like- who often fail to post a link to anything in support of their claims, beyond a possible (heavily-edited) audio/video clip. But where's the "link" to the police report in their cases?..
    Funny how it never seems to work both ways, there.

    John Q Whoever may join this place tommorow, make some outlandish claim of having been confronted, harrassed, detained-even arrested for carrying in some form, and everyone will jump on it about "oh the horror" without demanding any such links, and without any reasonable scepticism?

    Me, Im skeptical of both types, usually.

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    Here is my theory on these posts. They are NOT people at all--they are "bots". And they are designed to get "gun nut" responses--Dirty Harry kudos from the forum, which can then be used by whoever is putting these 'bots on our forum, against us--be it the government, or private "anti" groups.

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    The OP's 1st and last posts (total 3) were all made on 6/7/12 - hasn't been back since.

    Conclusion: was and still is a drive-by provocateur.
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    Provocateur? Or a pitiful individual with no self-esteem trying to make himself look bigger than life? It has been my misfortune in life to know several such individuals. They were all pathological liars and would lie when the truth would have served much better.

    Bottom line: If this is the case, then pity and ignore them. They are useless to themselves and everyone around them. Calling them out on their quite obvious lies accomplishes absolutely nothing as it gives them the attention they are craving and cannot get through normal relationships.
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    Assuming he was by himself, why did he open his passanger door after he got in his truck.

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