Carrying in car

MWhiteDesigns · Jun 12, 2012

So, when I carry I usually open carry. However at work there is a no weapons policy. My office building isn't in the best area of the city, so I do carry in my laptop bag into work just in case I have to walk a ways to my car or if something goes down at the office, I'll be protected ( I know of other people who do the same). I know if the gun is in the glove box or center console of your car, it is not considered concealed. Now the question is, if I leave it in my laptop bag and I have it sitting on my passenger floor, or on the back seat, is that considered concealed?

MagiK_SacK · Jun 12, 2012

Refer to the stick section. The link to the thread that answers your question is here http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...thout-a-CHP-(Concealed-Handgun-Permit)-STICKY look at the second post

Short answer is no

Steeler-gal · Jun 12, 2012

I'm not 100% certain but I believe the moment you stick it in your bag it is considered concealed - regardless of where the bag is stored in the car.

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MWhiteDesigns · Jun 12, 2012

muchos gracias

peter nap · Jun 12, 2012

Steeler-gal said:
I'm not 100% certain but I believe the moment you stick it in your bag it is considered concealed - regardless of where the bag is stored in the car.

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No...the laptop case is a secure container. I posted about the case User successfully defended where the man had his gun in a backpack in the car.
So in the car, the laptop case is fine.

Attorney General's Opinion
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/agopinions/VAAGAdvisoryOPFirearmsInVehicles.pdf

ProShooter · Jun 13, 2012

I would offer that the laptop bag, glove compartment, et al....they are all "concealed". What you guys are looking for is not that they are concealed, but that that they are "legally concealed without a permit"...

That is the difference.

peter nap · Jun 13, 2012

ProShooter said:
I would offer that the laptop bag, glove compartment, et al....they are all "concealed". What you guys are looking for is not that they are concealed, but that that they are "legally concealed without a permit"...

That is the difference.

Very True!
I stand corrected, it is concealed....just lawfully.

Tanner · Jun 13, 2012

ProShooter said:
I would offer that the laptop bag, glove compartment, et al....they are all "concealed". What you guys are looking for is not that they are concealed, but that that they are "legally concealed without a permit"...

That is the difference.

Hey im glad you said it! I had this tought a few days ago but figured I would keep my mouth shut. After all I do not enjoy the taste of my foot. Glad to see I woluld have been right. Is this how you guys feel all the time?

Sheriff · Jun 13, 2012

ProShooter said:
I would offer that the laptop bag, glove compartment, et al....they are all "concealed". What you guys are looking for is not that they are concealed, but that that they are "legally concealed without a permit"...

That is the difference.

Correct you are, legally concealed.

You seem to be one of the smart ones around here. :lol:

I wonder if the original poster will ever see the proper answer now? Think we should drop him a Private Message?

ProShooter · Jun 13, 2012

Glad that I could help....

Steeler-gal · Jun 14, 2012

peter nap said:
No...the laptop case is a secure container. I posted about the case User successfully defended where the man had his gun in a backpack in the car.
So in the car, the laptop case is fine.

Attorney General's Opinion
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/agopinions/VAAGAdvisoryOPFirearmsInVehicles.pdf

ProShooter said:
I would offer that the laptop bag, glove compartment, et al....they are all "concealed". What you guys are looking for is not that they are concealed, but that that they are "legally concealed without a permit"...

That is the difference.

So, if I'm carrying my gun in a laptop bag it is concealed and I need a VA CHP but once I put the bag into my car it's not concealed but is secured?
This is confusing.

ProShooter · Jun 14, 2012

Steeler-gal said:
So, if I'm carrying my gun in a laptop bag it is concealed and I need a VA CHP but once I put the bag into my car it's not concealed but is secured?
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No...

if I'm carrying my gun in a laptop bag it is concealed and I need a VA CHP but once I put the bag into my car it's legally concealed and a permit is not needed because the laptop bag is a secure container.

Steeler-gal · Jun 14, 2012

ProShooter said:
No...

if I'm carrying my gun in a laptop bag it is concealed and I need a VA CHP but once I put the bag into my car it's legally concealed and a permit is not needed because the laptop bag is a secure container.

Oh, OK. That makes sense. Thanks!

Tanner · Jun 14, 2012

In the bag is consealed in or out of the car. However you may carry consealed on or in your private property. A car is you private property. As proshooter pointed out you are just legally consealed, no permit needed. I think this was the thread where the one who started it said he still took his gun but left it in his car. The company did not allow guns so by doing so he was violating his companies right to refuse firearms. Thus illegaly carrying a firearm.

roscoe13 · Jun 15, 2012

Tanner said:
In the bag is consealed in or out of the car. However you may carry consealed on or in your private property. A car is you private property. As proshooter pointed out you are just legally consealed, no permit needed. I think this was the thread where the one who started it said he still took his gun but left it in his car. The company did not allow guns so by doing so he was violating his companies right to refuse firearms. Thus illegaly carrying a firearm.

That's not entirely accurate. You can't carry concealed on your person in your car w/o a CHP, only in a secured container.

Roscoe

Tanner · Jun 15, 2012

roscoe13 said:
That's not entirely accurate. You can't carry concealed on your person in your car w/o a CHP, only in a secured container.

Roscoe

Fair enough. Than I am to understand that private property only applies to your residence? If im not mistaken you may cc without a permit. I may have misunderstood the wording of the law.

peter nap · Jun 15, 2012

Tanner said:
Fair enough. Than I am to understand that private property only applies to your residence? If im not mistaken you may cc without a permit. I may have misunderstood the wording of the law.

You need to sit down and read the statute Tanner. You can't CC just because you're on private property.
You can CC in your own place of business and home or the immediate yard.

Tanner · Jun 15, 2012

peter nap said:
You need to sit down and read the statute Tanner. You can't CC just because you're on private property.
You can CC in your own place of business and home or the immediate yard.

I did read it just misunderstood. Makes sense. cc in or around your house witout a CHP. Now I understand it. Thank you.

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