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    I stopped Ocing for now because...

    Because I almost got arrested for being a suspected gun runner to California.
    I hang out in my local gun shop and since I have Cali plates and Cali DL since I haven't switched over yet.
    Got stopped, asked for ID, gave it. They questioned me about my gun, had me hand it over loaded...( I offered to unload it before handing it over they said no.)ran my serial number and found nothing, since it's not registered and it doesn't have to be in the state of Oregon. At least that's what I'm told by the pro gun good guys. Then they asked me if I go back and forth regularly to Cali, asked if I have bought AR's here and 30 round mags. Ug it's been a bad week. When can you be at the point of it's none of their business? Harassing me is what their doing. Apparently Oregon Sheriff's don't like people from California.

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    My first move would be to get an ODL a CHL and OR plates.

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    You should stop talking to police officers. You know they're not trying to be your friend, so why give them anything more to write in their reports about you? Did they stop you while driving? What was the reason for the stop? They can't just stop you without reasonable suspicion that you've violated a vehicle code and then ask for ID.

    I'm assuming that by "brought ARs here" you mean brought ARs and 30 round mags to California. That would be a no-no (well, not the ARs providing they're configured correctly and you're retaining possession of them). The cops obviously don't have anything on you and are trying to give you a hard time, which appears to be working. Stop talking to them, stay out of trouble, keep open carrying, keep/start audio and video recording them, and don't worry that you'll be arrested for gun running without a shred of evidence. I believe you have 30 days after moving here to get a driver's license and get new plates. If you've been here 29 days that isn't evidence of anything.

    On a different note, you should go to the DMV if for no other reason than to see how calm they are when compared to a California DMV. No long lines! No lines at all generally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    Apparently Oregon Sheriff's don't like people from California.
    Oregonians invented the word Californication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    You should stop talking to police officers. You know they're not trying to be your friend, so why give them anything more to write in their reports about you? Did they stop you while driving? What was the reason for the stop? They can't just stop you without reasonable suspicion that you've violated a vehicle code and then ask for ID.

    I'm assuming that by "brought ARs here" you mean brought ARs and 30 round mags to California. That would be a no-no (well, not the ARs providing they're configured correctly and you're retaining possession of them). The cops obviously don't have anything on you and are trying to give you a hard time, which appears to be working. Stop talking to them, stay out of trouble, keep open carrying, keep/start audio and video recording them, and don't worry that you'll be arrested for gun running without a shred of evidence. I believe you have 30 days after moving here to get a driver's license and get new plates. If you've been here 29 days that isn't evidence of anything.

    On a different note, you should go to the DMV if for no other reason than to see how calm they are when compared to a California DMV. No long lines! No lines at all generally.
    This +10.

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    So it's 30 days before I have to switch over my DL and plates? crap I have 4 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    So it's 30 days before I have to switch over my DL and plates? crap I have 4 days.
    That's been true everywhere I've ever lived, and it's also true for a change of address.

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    I don't even have a place of residence. I' staying with friends till I find a job and get my own apartment.

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    I know it's been posted a gazillion times around here, but it doesn't look like the OP has seen it. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    I don't even have a place of residence. I' staying with friends till I find a job and get my own apartment.
    I might be wrong, but if you don't have a place of residence, then you're not a resident yet. I doubt the 30 day rule would apply yet. If you're stopped, all you have to do is say you're visiting. Which pretty much sounds like what you're doing for the moment, at least until you find a job and a place to stay. But, you can leave that last part out.
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    This guy is beginning to sound more like Warren Drouin every day.

    Watch that video, and STOP TALKING TO THE DAMN POLICE!

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    Yeah exercise my 5th amendment rights and get arrested and charged with a ton of crap. Not happening. I'm sorry but this whole not talking to police is what gets your screwed over for a long time.

    This country is what is getting ridiculous, why won't our "public servants" leave us alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    Yeah exercise my 5th amendment rights and get arrested and charged with a ton of crap. Not happening. I'm sorry but this whole not talking to police is what gets your screwed over for a long time.

    This country is what is getting ridiculous, why won't our "public servants" leave us alone.
    Because 'we' won't stand up to them, because 'we' cave when it gets inconvenient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    Yeah exercise my 5th amendment rights and get arrested and charged with a ton of crap. Not happening. I'm sorry but this whole not talking to police is what gets your screwed over for a long time.

    This country is what is getting ridiculous, why won't our "public servants" leave us alone.
    Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Go back to Kalifornia man, you're too messed up for Oregon.

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    Still got Cali mentality. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    Because I almost got arrested for being a suspected gun runner to California.
    I hang out in my local gun shop and since I have Cali plates and Cali DL since I haven't switched over yet.
    Got stopped, asked for ID, gave it. They questioned me about my gun, had me hand it over loaded...( I offered to unload it before handing it over they said no.)ran my serial number and found nothing, since it's not registered and it doesn't have to be in the state of Oregon. At least that's what I'm told by the pro gun good guys. Then they asked me if I go back and forth regularly to Cali, asked if I have bought AR's here and 30 round mags. Ug it's been a bad week. When can you be at the point of it's none of their business? Harassing me is what their doing.

    Apparently Oregon Sheriff's don't like people from California.
    Sorry guy; but, most residents of states within 500 miles of the Kalifornian state line don't like Kalifonians. When the wife and were in town looking for a rental house the car rental company gave us a car with Kalifornia plates, I "felt the love" the whole time we were here.

    Once you have shed all identifying signs of Kalifornia you may fit in just fine, just leave the Kalifornia socialist tendencies at the state line and do not freely admit to being from Kalifonia, tell people you are from Utah or Colorado if you must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F350 View Post
    Sorry guy; but, most residents of states within 500 miles of the Kalifornian state line don't like Kalifonians. When the wife and were in town looking for a rental house the car rental company gave us a car with Kalifornia plates, I "felt the love" the whole time we were here.

    Once you have shed all identifying signs of Kalifornia you may fit in just fine, just leave the Kalifornia socialist tendencies at the state line and do not freely admit to being from Kalifonia, tell people you are from Utah or Colorado if you must.
    Yeah, I'm learning that. My last place of residence before I moved back to Cali for 6 months before moving to Oregon was Texas and before that Georgia. Boy do I miss Texas. I saw so many open carrying people it was awesome. I once ran into a guy carrying dual 1911's. It was pretty awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    Yeah exercise my 5th amendment rights and get arrested and charged with a ton of crap. Not happening. I'm sorry but this whole not talking to police is what gets your screwed over for a long time.
    If you think the only reason you're not getting arrested is because you're choosing to talk to the police then I would wager that you are incorrect. If you're doing something illegal then you're going to get arrested. You can take our advice or learn the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    Yeah, I'm learning that. My last place of residence before I moved back to Cali for 6 months before moving to Oregon was Texas and before that Georgia. Boy do I miss Texas. I saw so many open carrying people it was awesome. I once ran into a guy carrying dual 1911's. It was pretty awesome.
    If you saw people in Texas OCing, you saw people breaking the law. OCing a handgun is not legal in Texas, except maybe on private property. If you don't believe me, go ask in the Texas forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    If you saw people in Texas OCing, you saw people breaking the law. OCing a handgun is not legal in Texas, except maybe on private property. If you don't believe me, go ask in the Texas forum.
    This was 2 years ago when they pass that law? You can't OC in Texas? When did Texas go communist Cali?

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    Texas has outlawed open carry for your entire life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginian45colt View Post
    This was 2 years ago when they pass that law? You can't OC in Texas? When did Texas go communist Cali?
    They're trying to get it changed, but OC has been illegal in Texas for a VERY long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al
    If you saw people in Texas OCing, you saw people breaking the law.
    OCing a handgun is not legal in Texas, except maybe on private property.
    What he said.
    Now, if you were at a BBQ at someone's home & they were properly decked out BBQ guns, it'd be OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F350 View Post
    Sorry guy; but, most residents of states within 500 miles of the Kalifornian state line don't like Kalifonians. When the wife and were in town looking for a rental house the car rental company gave us a car with Kalifornia plates, I "felt the love" the whole time we were here.
    I feel your pain. I'm in WI, and got stuck with an Illinois rental car. Cops around here target IL plates (and rightfully so. Most of them drive like ****)

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    I'm really beginning to get the feeling that the OP is a troll of some sort. COMMENTS REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR: No personal attacks.
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